EL4C25 - Discussions

From WikiEducator
Jump to: navigation, search

Kopete1.png

Please use this page for any questions and/or comments you may have throughout the course.

  • Please click on edit tab (top of this page) or [edit] link (right side of participant's entries), enter your comments, questions or suggestions, then scroll down to click on save page tab.
  • Please add your Username and/or your wiki-signature.
  • For instructions on how to add or personalize your wiki-signature see help page Signature.
Thank you =)

Discussions


Discussion about motivations and hopes in taking this course.

Please sign your post. Thank you

  • Thanks for still keeping the tutorials open - I promise to be ready by the end of this week. Very grateful for this possibility of becoming a Wikieducator user / member --Connectirmeli 09:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hello Irmeli, it's great to see your note. Even thought workshop is over, tutorials are always open to the community. Facilitators are also ready to assist you anytime.. --Gladys Gahona 12:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
  • No you're not the only one Keri. I'm still somewhere between Day 3 and Day 4. But I'm determined to finish sooner or later! Patrick --Pspaven 07:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Great attitude Patrick! ... and we'll be here to assist you anytime =). --Gladys Gahona 07:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hello am I the only one who has got behind? I will get this done and get my resource made but may be a bit slower than I thought. Keri DS
  • Welcome to EL4C25, please do the tutorials. Workshop is still open for those participants who are still working on the tutorials. Please let me know whether you need further assistance. --Gladys Gahona 13:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Very interested in the online learning einvironment, listened to a presentation by Wayne Mackintosh, which prompted me to explore wiki educator and sign up to this course. VivH
  • I am using this course to expand instructional design systems into new areas, so I am analyzing, designing, and developing a jazz course in the affective learning in Bloom's taxonomy. The door is open wide to your review and comments. --Jim 17:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I want to overcome my fear of wikis and make a creative contribution to WikiEducator. I feel out of my depth Carol Yeager and other compassionate folks, please help Joyce McKnight
  • Hi, Joyce. Nice to meet you. Love Highlander. I often wonder what Horton and Freire would be doing now. They have certainly left us with a wonderful legacy. Now I have to figure out how to respond to you. It didn't quite work since my name is missing. I thought I had created a signature.
    -- Bruna Ori
  • I want to use wiki with my students the following year so I'll do my best--elenargy 20:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Well, the motivation for me is to try to stay one step ahead of my surging techno students. What I like about this sort of innovation is that I can put the basic (read, very basic) knowledge into their more than capable hands and then "sit back" and watch them make it fly. Colin James
  • It's the second time I'm doing this course and I still feel very nervous when I edit a page. I do hope I'm able to overcome this feeling, and be more confident at the end of the course.
    --Gabriela 22:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I'm very intrested in learning how to create, modify and use wikis for educational purposes. Let's see.
    --User:Mercedes Viola
  • I am very much interested in eLearning, and this course will make it easier for me to create, edit and upload certain contents to specific topis of our interest. Thank you for this course........and it's even free!
    --User:mmnMorenoMD 15 June 2009
  • I am trying to drive the use of a Colege Learning management system. It's been in place for two years and some teachers are using it but its potential is huge. The use of wikis within this system should be a powerful tool I am told. I've got to try it for myself. Robin 09:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi, I am an experienced Wikipedian in Hebrew and English. I am looking forward to connecting with other like-minded educators from around the world. Much success, Atbannett 10:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I'm very interested in the use of e-learning in University.--Maria Lara Martinez 11:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hello, I 'm somehow familiar with pbworks but I am impatient to learn how to edit wikieducator.I have to be more careful with the used syntax Mbarek Akaddar
  • I definitely understand your feelings Mbarek, please work at your pace, be patient but persistent. Soon you will find out how powerful the Wikieducator platform is. --Gladys Gahona 19:13, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hello! I'm very interested in this course because I would like to learn these tools to implement them in my lectures --Pastora Martínez Castilla
  • Hello! I'm very interested in learning more about wikis in general and the WikiEducator Project in particular.--Vicky Saumell 15:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I am very motivated in exploring WikiEducator. I would like to integrate it to the courses I teach. --Eleni 17:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hello Everyone! I'm very interested in this course not only for academic pourpouses but also research on several topics. --Dario.nuno 17:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


  • Hello Everyone! I'm very interested in learning more about wikis and the type of activities we can do with them.

--Fernanda 18:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

  • I am pursuing this workshop to learn more, to teach better, and to increase my capabilities and impact as an educator. --Terry Eberhart
  • I would like to begin a database of resources, lesson plans and teaching strategies for secondary social studies educators.--Patrina Huff 23:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Ciao, I am a student from Italy and I am very interested in e-learning, especially in Wikieducator projet. Thank you very much for this opportunity!--Sara Spatti 22:02, 16 June 2009
  • Dear Failitators, I want to let you know how much I appreciate the structure and format of the training sessions. I registered for the training that ended on the 12th. Because, I could not do much, I jumped on to this other one. It is certain that I would have to get into the next couple or so courses. Thanks so much for the foresight! --Prince Obiri-Mainoo
  • Hi, Prince. Nice to meet you. Thank you for mentioning the possibility of taking future courses. I'm going to be with you hopefully in some future courses here. I can see where I'm certainly going to benefit from it. Now let's see if I can get this signature thing to work.
    -- --Lily8usa 16:39, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I hope to complete my knowledge about wikis in this course. --Laura Lara Martínez 09:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I am very interested in WikiEducator project. --Maria Lara Martinez 09:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I'd like to use wiki with my students... and being able to teach them how to use it,too. I'm also very much interested in e-learning. Thank you for this opportunity to upgrade my teaching. --Florencia Ferreri
  • I am very interested in learning more about creating wikis, using different templates and make contribution to my institution, my student and the WikiEducator project! --Zobeida Ramirez 17:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I think wiki is a very good way to summarize ideas, I love it. I enjoy every tiny little improvement in the process.--heyjulia
  • I'm very interested in eLearning and the use of wikis to implement in University of Carabobo.--chuisa 03:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I'm very interested on following this wiki course as nowadays the Web 2.0 is one of the pillars of ICT--Leolezcano 15:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Discussion about editing basics and text formatting

Please sign your post. Thank you

  • Ack! This should be an interesting experience for me. I am so used to WYSIWYG! I have NO experience whatsoever with anything that even comes close to code. Colin James
  • It was to me when I first dealed with markup language. It's indeed an enriching experience. Cheers Colin. --Gladys Gahona 19:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I agree Colin .. this is kind of like going back into the Dos world. OR using Turtle Logo :-) VivH
  • I'm a MAC user. All this print stuff with strange characters for editing is very confusing. Hope I can learn it.User:mmcisaac
  • You will make it Marina, especially if you love worthing challenges --Gladys Gahona 19:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Thank you, gladys, for all your help today through Skype. That really set me on the right track. I LOVE challenges!--Marina McIsaac 22:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • My pleasure Marina =) --Gladys Gahona 00:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Seems very promising! --Kmariann 16:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Using wiki syntax is definitely faster. What is the use of the other buttons apart from the bold, italics and headline buttons?? ""User:Angela""
  • Excellent question Angela. Go to your sandbox, turn to edit mode then experiment with them. As you progress on the workshop you will find some answers to your question. --Gladys Gahona 18:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I am interested in using this in one of my online courses as a method of tracking student misconceptions. This is definitely different!User:Cattys291/Cathy James-Springer--Cathy James-Springer 13:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I have just started with this editing thing. I still feel kind of clumsy. Let's see how it continues. --Mercedes Viola 15:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I've visited your sandbox Mercedes, you're doing great. --Gladys Gahona 19:52, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I have just finished the editing. Everything was quite straightforward except for the mixed lists, which took a me a while to understand and get right. Anyway, very impressed with the guidance.--Vicky Saumell 17:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Does anybody know how to write the pipe | in a Spanish keyboard? Thanks --Gabriela 17:35, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • It depends on the model Gaby, in my case it is right below the "Esc" key. While you find the key in your specific keyboard, please do this: while the "Alt" key is depressed, type the sequence of numbers 124, release the Alt key, and the pipe will appear --Gladys Gahona 18:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Thanks a lot Gladys! Somebody on FB helped me see it together with the 1 key, I had been looking for it for months and had never seen it! alt + 124 also works. Thanks a lot!--Gabriela 19:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • When you press the math (LaTex) button, what are you supposed to enter in between the math and /math? --Katerina Spyropoulou
  • Well I thought I just published an intelligent coment on this page but it seems that I "lost" it, so let´s try again. I had a (maybe stupid) question: can my sandbox of my userpage be accessed by other participants? In the Wikilogic this should be the case but if so, how do I access other pages? --Hatara 19:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • The answer is yes Hatara, everybody can see your sanbox and provide assistance on your learning process. Wikis are by definition collaborative editing enviroments. In order to access other's pages, just click in their signatures. You will find more links as you progress in the workshop. --Gladys Gahona 19:52, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • This is what I've so far got in my sandbox[1] - I'll add more content and my introduction tomorrow; it's midnight on my timezone. I'm happy to learn together with you :)
    Irmeli Aro / ConnectIrmeli
  • I am looking forward to playing in my sandbox ... I will do my best not to bury myself in the sand right away!! --Carolyeager 23:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi, sorry, I'm a day behind. I'm also interested in understanding the code. It's definitely like a foreign language to me. I'm working in wikispaces at the moment designing a supported assessment environment and would be interested to know how it might work in here. --AnnBrady 08:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • It is certainly a foreign language, for enriching our personal and professional skills --Gladys Gahona 15:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hello Everyone! I would like to learn new forms of communication with my students in this course. --Laura Lara Martínez 12:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hello Everyone! I would like to learn more things about the using of the wikis on education. --Maria Lara Martinez 13:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • You will... once you get familiarised with the tool --Gladys Gahona 15:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi, In my user page under my profile I've added some stuff, gmail and Skype accounts. It seems that pressing <Enter>is not enough, I have to press the line break toolbar button to get to the other line (when in edit mode, pressing enter is going to the next line, but when I save changes and look at the page everything is on the same line. It appears there's no need for line break here. Am I doing something wrong? --Katerina Spyropoulou 14:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Yes Katerina, you may also add as much <br /> as you need. Try several <enter>... see what happens... discovering is funny =) --Gladys Gahona 15:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Go to http://www.wikieducator.org/ITforJHS/, since you are the only editor so far, remove al content, then add following code: {{delete}}. Save page, this template adds a "deletion requested" red banner and Category:Deletion Requested. Let administrators do the rest of the job. --Gladys Gahona 18:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • That means that only the persons with administrative access have the right to do it? If some1 wants f.e. to delete a message that was sent -by mistake - twice, how do you do it? --Katerina Spyropoulou 16:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Yes Katerina. Where exactly is the message you want to remove? --Gladys Gahona 17:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Well, actually it was me. I was using Katerina’s account by mistake. I had problems saving with firefox too. I sent a message to Elenargy twice. It’ s not a really problem. If administrator is the only one who can delete pages, messages and so on, is that flexible in real life when creating pages, lesson…?--tk 19:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi, I'm using Firefox to access my user page. Whenever I make a change and press, it's like taking for ages to get a respond and when there is finally one, it's somthing like "Bad response request" and I have to go back using the browser's back button, press "Cancel" in the "Edit" page and everything is there saved and all. I get no such thing with IE7. Is it a bug with Firefox, or is there something I must configure? --Katerina Spyropoulou 14:44, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hello Katerina, I am a Firefox user as well. Have you upgraded to version 3.0.11? Sometimes I experience some issues on firefox, however upgrades generally solve the problems. Please also check the installed components, some of them give some problems. Try deleting cookies (tools - clean private data) --Gladys Gahona 16:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


  • I just completed the Day 1 Editing and Day 2 New Pages actividades and thanks to your great tutorials is have been very easy and straight forward for me --Zobeida Ramirez 20:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Discussion about ways to create and access Wikieducator new pages

Please sign your post. Thank you

  • Having worked with wikis before, I have had no problem creating new pages and linking them to one another as well as inserting external links. Great tutorials though!--Vicky Saumell 18:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your feedback --Gladys Gahona 15:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi Vicky, I found your pages full of good information as I am trying to put together materials for ESL. Thank you for all the good things you have pointed me toward. --Marina McIsaac 04:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Quite straightforward tutorials on how to add internal-external links :) --Kmariann 18:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your feedback --Gladys Gahona 15:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi, I'm still not very sure whether all the pages you create need to be under your user page. Thanks for your support. --Pastora Martínez Castilla
  • Only personal pages should be alocated under the User Page. Same happens when developing a multi-page resource, and you beleive is should be done so. This structure prevents specific pages to be taken as generic pages --Gladys Gahona 15:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I need some help in creating subpages,and also how to upload the images.Thanks Archana
  • Do you have any instant messaging service? We can syncronously provide assistance --Gladys Gahona 15:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • One I am still a little confused about the internal links when and why they can be used. I am adding this one in the hope that I am correct. [Cathy's page]. The external links are clearer Cathy James-Springer
Think about an internal link as linking to another page in the wiki which already exists. Internal links use two square brackers [[ ....]]. What I do when linking to another page in the wiki, is
  • to open the target page in a new window (this helps to get the exact syntax which is case sensitive)
  • the copy all the text from the url which appears after the http://wikieducator.org/ page.
  • therefore in your example, to link to your userpage you would use this sytax [[User:Cattys291|Cathy's page]] - not the pipe for an internal link is "|" --Wayne Mackintosh 20:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Probably, I need more extended information about uploading and formatting images. Thank you for your job.
  • Core.png Wiki code is [[Image:Core.png|40px]], this image has been resized to 40 px. The original size is 128x128 px. The code contains an internal link to the image's page (image has been uploaded to Wikieducator server), and the horizontal size set to 40px. Click on the image and take a look at the image page.
  • Core.png
    Wiki code is [[Image:Core.png|40px|left]], this image has been resized to 40px. The original size is 128x128. The code contains a link to the image's page inside Wikieducator, the horizontal size set to 40px and a "floating to the left" instruction. It is exactly the same source image but with additional formatting. Noticed the meaning on "floating to the left"?. Here is a clue: Compare pharagraphs.


  • I have the same question about uploading pictures....and on my german keyboard I can not find the pipe....Alt and 124 does not seem to work here...---Hatara
  • Have your tried "Alt Gr" key + "><" key? --Gladys Gahona 23:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I have done some editing in PBWiki, but it does not seem to have the range of editing tools that wikieducator has Geoffrey Downie

  • Yes Geoffrey, you are right. Mediawiki (open source) is a powerful and scalable platform. --Gladys Gahona 19:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


  • I have no problem creating new pages Everything is clear so far thanks to your tutorials --Zobeida Ramirez 20:34, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi,

qst#1 How do you quickly access other people user pages? qst#2 If you create a page everytime you type the url of a non-existing page on the browser, aren't you bound to end up with tons of unwanted pages by the end of this workshop? I think I may have created one or two by mistake. How do I, or you, or I don't know who, get rid of those? (Or is it just close to midnight here and I am talking rubbish?) --Katerina Spyropoulou 20:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Discussion about types of images and media allowed in Wikieducator and the importance of licensing artwork

Please sign your post. Thank you

  • I am anxious to learn how images can be protected (copyrighted), if at all, in the wiki arena.--Carolyeager 00:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I have successfully added pictures, pdf files, mp3 and videos in my sandbox! Thank you for your help! --Kmariann 09:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Congratulations Kmariann, happy uploading, now you are able to assist others =) --Gladys Gahona 16:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I am trying to add an open office document to my sandbox and am having a bit of trouble. Curious, it an image? Media? Or something else?--Patrina Huff 22:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hello Patrina, images can't be copy/pasted, they can only be "linked" --Gladys Gahona 23:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi Gladys, I know that images can't be pasted. I am attempting to link an Open Office document using the following syntax.Media:Education_Projects.otd|Education Projects to Construct in Wikieducator and Image:Education_Projects.otd|Education Projects to Construct in Wikieducator. Wondering if I should use a different syntax to add an .otd file? --Patrina Huff 09:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi Patrina, the following file extensions are enabled (white listed) on WE: png, gif, jpg, jpeg, elp, swf, flv, pdf, odt, mp3, svg, odt, odp, ods. Just checking-- Are you refering to OO .odt or .otd format? In my case, when I use OO draw I export to png or better still create drawings using Inkscape so we have scalable vector graphics versions of images for open editing and resizing without loosing any image quality :-). --Wayne Mackintosh 10:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • In cases 3 and 4 you have to get the URL for the file. Just go to the image page: File:Education Projects.odt, right click on link "Education_Projects.odt‎", copy the file path to the clipboard, then paste in your text. --Gladys Gahona 15:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi, I've had trouble uploading a picture from my desktop, while I've had no problem uploading a .pdf file. Is it the same procedure? I tried uploading a .jpg image from my desktop in the same way as I uploaded a .pdf file but it wouldn't work. Any tips? Thank you. User:Angela
  • Hi Angela, sometimes the file is corrupted. Please try another jpg file. Remember files must be less than 2mb. --Gladys Gahona 15:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! User:Angela

  • Hello,
  1. I'd like to have access to the files I uploaded , I may like to delete some of them .Can I ?
  2. Is it possible to embed a youtube video in a wikieducator page ? Thank you --Mbarek 16:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
1. Hi Mbarek, Click on "my contributions" (Top Right Corner of Page), scroll down the list to find the pdf file and two images you uploaded. Click on the file link, turn to editing mode then write this template code {{delete}}. One administrator will delete the image or the file. Warm wishes --Gladys Gahona 06:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
2. There is a way to watch a youtube video in Wikieducator. I suggest you first read Tutorial on "Collaborative video help and sandbox" --Gladys Gahona 06:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hello, you may need to short the long URLs

I had some trouble embedding an external link into my Tell Us a Story Template. It seems that the template has some problems reading URLs that are too long. So, first go to http://tinyurl.com/ and shorten the long URLs and than create the external link. See my page and the second Tell us a story (I am one of the 22,657 fans). All credits go to Gladys --vukasinbvasic 17:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

  • I have managed to work with the images, although uploading new files to WikiEducator was a bit different from Wikispaces. I could also upload a pdf! So I'm on my way now!--Vicky Saumell 14:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


  • I have completed uploading and working with images and a pdf file. I needed to use de syntax
    in order to organize my next topic about the pdf file. It was very useful!!! --Zobeida Ramirez 18:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Discussion about "Wiki Ethics"

Please sign your post. Thank you

  • Thank you for sharing =) --Gladys Gahona 00:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hi, I was wondering about how we can control users from altering our page. For instance, if we use a wiki in the classroom, how can we control whether students may have altered the content to their benefit? I assume everything appears in the 'history' tab? User:Angela
  • I have used wikis with my students and although they made some mistakes unintentionally, they were really worried about it, e-mailed me immediately to let me know what had happened and I could revert it easily. I am now convinced that, as they know you can see all the changes made to a page, they won't risk vandalising.--Vicky Saumell 14:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)



Discussion About Learning Contract

Please sign your post. Thank you

  • In the first place I am not sure whether this is where my question belongs since I don't see any header for Learning Contract. It also looks like everyone might have been done with it, but I am wondering whether we have to always sign a new contract form if I sent one two weeks ago. Thanks!
  • Hi, if you've already sent in a learning contract -- no need to send a duplicate. However -- we hope that after contributing a little of your knowledge to the community, you will become a regular visitor and contributor to our amazing global wiki family :-) --Wayne Mackintosh 21:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
  • While I have filled out and signed my LC, I have neither fax nor scan capabilities right now. Suggestions? Thanks --Carolyeager 16:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)








Discussion about Importance of structure and usage of subpages

Please sign your post. Thank you

  • A good structure is necessary to transmit the knowledge. --Maria Lara Martinez 15:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I think that It's very important a correct structure for a good transmission of the knowledge--Laura Lara Martínez 15:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
  • A solid and coherent structure improves the navigation of the content in such a way that it becomes a signalled path easy to follow. --Vicky Saumell 18:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)






Discussion about Templates

Please sign your post. Thank you

  • Wich are the code words that I may use in a template? Is a list in any place? --mhsaenzs 16:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
  • You might want to read Day 5 in advance. See tutorial on Pedagogical templates. --Gladys Gahona 18:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I first misplaced the question. I created a template, http://www.wikieducator.org/Template:ITforJHS_nav. How can I make the frame bigger, so it can take up the whole page length and accomodate all the Greek titles? Why is it that the first link goes where it should go, http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Spyropk/ITforJHS, exactly like I thought it would when writing the line, and when I click the other three they link to pages not yet written (I have three pages under http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Spyropk/ITforJHS, and thought when I was writing the template that I was making links to there)? Pheew, I sure hope that's clear enough. Thanks a lot--Katerina Spyropoulou 17:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

  • Hello Katerina, please go to the template page. I added a second template, check out what I made, pay attention on the differences, please remove the undesired code. Thanks --Gladys Gahona 18:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I found the templates tutorial fascinating and worth exploring in detail. I have managed to do the basic but will explore them in detail later.--Vicky Saumell 19:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Retrieved from "https://wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Learning4Content/Workshops/Online_schedule/eL4C25/Discussions&oldid=395426"