Talk:Educators care/Permission to teach/Fair and reasonable practice survey
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| Thread title | Replies | Last modified |
|---|---|---|
| Comments and thoughts on the Survey | 0 | 21:54, 26 April 2011 |
| Feedback on the survey | 3 | 10:47, 8 February 2011 |
| Fair uses.. | 1 | 08:48, 11 January 2011 |
| Question format for Opinion section | 3 | 17:01, 30 December 2010 |
| Question on using digital content | 5 | 17:00, 30 December 2010 |
| Style guide -- capitalisation | 3 | 16:32, 29 December 2010 |
| Group likert items in Opinion section | 2 | 15:49, 29 December 2010 |
A few thoughts (based on the File:OCL4ED Reasonable practice survey.pdf) for next time:
Regarding the survey:
q. 12.[edit]
"Learning materials should be free for all learners of the world."
Ambiguous (some respondents will interpret the question one way, others another).
?"All" or "Some"? If "some", which types on which media?
e.g. learning materials whose development costs have been covered (e.g. via the salaries of educators and public institutional overheads).
In this case the "free" clearly means "gratis" (right?).
The wording portrays a wonderful ideal with which most people would agree.
q.15.[edit]
Why would anyone do 15 (copy) if not to do 16 (redistribute)?
q.15-17.[edit]
Why use contradictory wording?
e.g. you could have said
"16. It is fair and reasonable for educators to have permission to redistribute materials for teaching and learning contexts."
(i.e. the permission is not "unrestricted", it is restricted to "teaching and learning contexts")
q.18-21[edit]
Ambiguous for anyone who intends to use different licenses according to context.
i.e. "I am happy to share my creative works and the content I generate ONLY if ..."
The response to almost any question starting in this way (18-21) would have to be "disagree" or "strongly disagree".
q.19[edit]
Ambiguous
e.g. depends on how one reads the question (note emphasis):
- "strongly disagree" - _I_ usually work with others, my knowledge always comes from somewhere, and I would not necessarily want to be attributed as the original creator. (but I "strongly agree" that the deserving original author be attributed).
- _and_ - "agree" for my creative works but "disagree" for the content I generate. Applying _and_ my response has to be "disagree" or "strongly disagree".
q.21.[edit]
"I am happy to share my creative works and the content I generate ONLY if others are not allowed to make money from my creations."
The wording surfaces notions of "ownership" of "intellectual property" and "control" in how people use "my" works and misses the point of the Creative Commons licenses (liberating culture).
q22 and q23[edit]
These are mutually exclusive (due to "ONLY" in 22) and complimentary. Interesting that we get 71% agreeing with 22 and only 42% disagreeing with 23?
q25 - q28.[edit]
"reluctant"?
The word applies in q.25 and possibly q.28 but not in 26-27.
e.g. change q26 and q27 to read:
"I don't share my teaching materials or creative works BECAUSE ..."
i.e. it is not that I am "reluctant" to do so, I just don't because ... (I don't have time, etc.).
q.33.[edit]
In the results file: does this summarise all the "Further comments and suggestions"?
This is a great survey! Easy to follow, quick and straight to the point! Congratulations. Cheers, Carina
Appreciate the feedback.
Thanks Carina :-). We've been lucky -- good volunteer work from colleagues which have helped improve our early drafts.
As free content -- you can adapt and modify for your own research projects!
Cheers
Looking good! I like questions 25-29, very helpful for gauging the most prevalent arguments against OERs. --Janecc 21:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
There don't seem to be questions about the actual types of permissions that teachers think is fair? ie. I believe I should have a right to copy, redistribute, or derive X and X type of works. Or I believe I should only have the right to copy... etc. Maybe this is not the intent of the survey, but it sounds like it from description "what permissions you would consider fair and reasonable in a teaching and learning context"
I lost my flow of concentration when the question typed changed in the "Opinion" section. One way to address this would be to rewrite the first three questions in this section to use the format of the later questions...1st person, likert scale. I'd also suggest including directions. This revision might look something like the following:
For each of the following statements, indicate your level of agreement.
I believe that learning materials should be free for all learners of the world.
- Strongly agree
- Agree
- Disagree
- Strongly disagree
I support lecturers, teachers and trainers in their decision to share their teaching materials freely.
- Strongly agree
- Agree
- Disagree
- Strongly disagree
I believe that content generated from taxpayer revenue should be released freely for use by all citizens.
- Strongly agree
- Agree
- Disagree
- Strongly disagree
A second option is to just add the new instructions "For each of the following statements, indicate your level of agreement." before the first question in the new format.
I have a slight preference for just adding directions--I like having the dichotomous answer choices for the first three questions--more definitive, although we risk having a large number of omits (assuming that's an option).
Alison
As to the last question:
"In the past, I have used digital content sourced from the web without attributing the source (e.g. images sourced from Google or Yahoo! Search)" (Yes/No)
I realize the intent of the question, but "use" is a very broad word. I'd be surprised if anyone could honestly answer "no" to this question, because even one instance of having used something from the internet without attribution would mean you have to answer "yes." I don't think that's the intent of the question. One option is to reword to narrow the scope. But, I wonder if it is more interesting if we were to try to get at the ways people have used digital content.
We could rework this question as "check all that apply" and offer examples. Here's a quick reworking to show what I mean:
- In the past, I have used digital content sourced from the web without attributing the source in the following ways:
- included an image or quote sourced from an internet search, e.g., Google or Yahoo!, in an unpublished work
- allowed students to use internet images in their classroom work, e.g., in a classroom presentation
- included an image or quote on a public website, e.g., blog
- forwarded an email containing an image or quote
Just some thoughts on this question. Alison
Hi Alison,
I've not been too happy with the question myself. As you indicate the intent is not to "police" the breach of copyright -- but somehow to get a sense of how things operate in the real world. Thoughts:
- I suggest we change the scale from a binary Yes/No answer to a Likert type scale -- perhaps something like 1) Never, 2) Seldom, 3) Sometimes 4) Often.
- Create a separate bullet for quotes (i.e separate images from text.)
Good value addition -- thanks!
I like your rewording options better...it'd be nice if we could understand this practice better, but I didn't like the suggestions, even as I wrote them. I'll make a change given your suggestions...as you suggest a grouped option that deals separately with images and text.
Alison
Thanks Alison,
Having your critical eye go over these questions is extremely valuable in improving the quality of what we are trying to do. I'll take a close look at the revised suggestions and groupings to see if I can improve in any way.
Agreed -- we need to get a better understanding of how the OER movement is maturing over time in the practice and thoughts of educators around the world. I can't wait to see the aggregated results after the pilot offering of the course.
W
Thanks, I'm happy to help out.
I'm still unhappy with this question. Coming back to it today, I notice that it doesn't fit in the "Opinions" section, in that the respondent is not asked to offer an opinion.
I'm not sure I could answer how often I've used images and text without attribution.
This is really useful information to collect, but I'm not convinced the current wording gets at what we are interested in.
Yeah -- I see the problem.
mmm let me think .....
How about reformulating as an opinion question.
In my opinion, it is acceptable to use images (e.g sourced from Google or Yahoo! search) in my classroom presentations (slide shows, handouts) without confirming permissions to reuse the images
- Strongly agree
- Agree
- Disagree
- Strongly disagree
In my opinion, it acceptable to use images (e.g sourced from Google or Yahoo! search) in my classroom presentations (slide shows, handouts) without attributing the source
- Strongly agree
- Agree
- Disagree
- Strongly disagree
In my opinion, it is acceptable to use images (e.g sourced from Google or Yahoo! search) on published websites e.g. blog posts or learning management system without confirming permissions to reuse the images.
- Strongly agree
- Agree
- Disagree
- Strongly disagree
You get the idea -- is this better?
W
Great job on the survey. As I read through the questions, I noticed some inconsistency in capitalisation. A few suggestions:
- Open education resources: seems to me that this is used conceptually rather than as a proper noun. I suggest we use lower case.
- Creative Commons: In a quick look I didn't find a definitive style guide on capitalisation. Although logo is lower case, the actual license name is uppercase. I suggest we use upper case. (See second heading for lower case use, versus general upper case use.)
Just thought I'd post these since it seemed like we should come to consensus on this early in our work.
Alison
Hi Alison,
Thanks for the feedback on the survey questions. I think this will provide valuable data on contemporary thinking among educators relating to the sharing of knowledge -- but also a nice feature to give immediate feedback to learners on the course.
I agree with both suggestions for the style guidelines for this development. Consistency is more important than individual preferences for this task imho. Draw a line in the sand and post these guidelines to the list ;-). We'll follow the recommendations.
Cheers
Agreed, this will be a good tool to learn about what educators are thinking on this issue.
I'll make the changes on the survey as suggested. I noticed a style guide page for the project, so I'll add these as style guidelines. (I'm hoping to get time in the near future to review the content pages.) I'll post a link to the style page, once revised, and ask for additional suggestions.
Alison
Really appreciate your contributions -- thank you :-D.
Your a skilled editor and WE need this input to fix up my lack of attention to detail. Yip -- have set up a style guideline page for this project to focus on consistency decisions unique to this project. Eg, naming conventions for all the CC license ;-).
Cheers
There are sets of likert items in the Opinion section which have common or near-common stems. I suggest grouping these. I revised one of the groups on the survey page to show what I mean. I think the grouping will improve a respondents understanding of each statement in that it focuses attention on the differences (which we see easily because we are familiar with CC).
If we like the grouping better, there are two other groupings that we could make:
- the two statements following the trial grouping
- the three statements that begin with "I am reluctant to share my teaching materials or creative works because"
Alison
