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Useful words/phrases/quotes:

  • considerate
  • respectful
    • politeness
    • humility
    • assuming good faith
  • listen first
    • "Grant that we may not so much seek to be understood as to understand" - Saint Francis of Assisi
  • play the ball, not the person.
  • in accordance with WikiEducator values ...
  • constructive criticism
  • appreciation
  • accommodate diverse perspectives - celebrate diversity
  • trust
  • ...
KTucker (talk)13:42, 14 January 2011

Do we need to add "Knowledgeableness" ( or some other word with the same meaning)also in the list of values in the introduction? Anil Prasad 03:57, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Anil Prasad (talk)15:57, 15 January 2011

Interesting idea. We certainly value knowledge but the philosophical question arises: what is it? In the Declaration on libre_knowledge on values we used the wording:

Libre Communities value:
  • the members and their diverse perspectives
  • etc.

i.e. we value community members and their perspectives - rather than referring to the "amount" of "knowledge" they might have. Following that line of thinking, the first word in the list of values, "diversity" (possibly) covers it.

Regarding the word "Knowledgeableness" I have also encountered "knowledgeability" whose definition implies an ability to use one's knowledge wisely. This is something we would value in our community. For example, the libre knowledge vision includes the phrase "Knowledge for all, freedom to learn, towards collective wisdom".

KTucker (talk)10:36, 2 March 2011

I'm okay with adding knowledgeability, but it's more important that the list of values be consistent with published WE values. In fact the list on this first draft is from draft governance policy and are not consistent with the "values" listed on the bottom right of the WE main page. (Although there is a slight difference in meaning between the two instances of values...noun vs. verb, it seems to me that WE need only one version.)

I prefer the list of values from the draft governance policy (simpler, more comprehensive, more interpretable) and, although not related to this project per se, suggest WE consider revising the main page to use the list.


ASnieckus (talk)13:42, 8 March 2011

I support the idea of revising the values listed on the main page to those listed in the draft open community governance policy:

diversity, freedom, innovation, transparency, equality, inclusivity, empowerment, human dignity, wellbeing and sustainability.

(without adding "Knowledgeableness" or "knowledgeability").

KTucker (talk)20:14, 8 March 2011

Given we are both agreed, I guess the next step is to get feedback from the WikiEducator community to the proposal to change the values listed on the main page to the version in the open community governance policy.

I'll post a message to the group to that effect.


ASnieckus (talk)13:53, 9 March 2011