I think all comments to pages should be conducted in the Discussion tab only. Since comments will eventually be deleted and more than likely copied into the discussion tab later, making this a standard would simplify things in my opinion.
One of the purposes of the workgoup is to facilitate communication. When a workgroup is formed, its founding members need to decide how to communicate. I don't think there is one answer for how to communicate, although my preference is on WE. Should there be a list of options, including pros&cons and examples that could be previewed? --Alison Snieckus 02:22, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Alison brings up an important point. I think the way members communicate can be open, but I think that whatever information or decisions that are made should be included in the discussion tab of the wiki page (e.g. minutes to a meeting). This helps outsiders see the rationale as members pursue a common objective.
I'm also in favor of general comments belonging on the discussion page. Maybe one of our first tasks for this "figuring out workgroups" workgroup should be to decide how/where we want discussions to happen. My vote is to keep thoughts and discussion in the main discussion tab, at least to start.
So how do we make this decision? Our chosen communication method should (at a minimum): 1) enable us in sharing our thoughts/opinions/ideas, 2) support our collaboration in making decisions, 3) be transparent, and 4) encourage interested others to join in (or is this last one implied by transparent). I think our experiencing this decision process for our group can help us better envision how to help other groups with this ongoing struggle.
I would say that a group charter would be in order. A group charter would contain all the necessary information needed as to how the group would work, expectations, etc.
I like the idea that one of the steps for establishing a Workgroup be that the initiators (one or more community members or the subgroup members assigned from the Council) create a draft charter. Will see if I can outline a starting point for this on the page.
Clearly there are advantages to keeping discussions on the discussion page -- particularly from the perspective of tracking the history of the development of policy-like documents.
It's not easy (or appropriate?) to regulate something like wiki "etiquette" but also see the need to encourage transparent practice.
- I suggest that we consider including a subsection in the guideline for workgroups document on "preferred" communication channels; and
- In cases where discussion or ideas are located in spaces other than the relevant discussion tab, we could request that links to these discussions should be inserted on the discussion page with the proviso that only discussions (and relevant links -- eg a link to a post on the discussion list) will be taken into account for re-drafting and revisions.
Most WikiEducators would do their best to work within these communication guidelines.
I'm very challenged by this idea of using the current LQT based discussion pages within WE. I do not consistently get notification of changes additions to discussion threads. This makes it very difficult for me to follow a discussion, particularly when it is spread over multiple pages. I don't know if this happens for others, maybe I need a tutorial on using LQT, or maybe I need an account reset? I still get notification of new messages weeks after they have been posted. And I think it is an unrealistic expectation for me to check every page on a daily basis for new discussion items... --- next day --- I have just confirmed this as an ongoing problem. I added the these discussion threads yesterday and when I logged in again today I was NOT notified of Waynes comment back to me. The only way I found his reply was to go to the My Contributions link and then scroll through the list until I found the page I had edited. Then I followd the link and therefore the additional discussion. Is this a problem with my settings? Are other people having similar troubles?
Let's run a quick test -- please reply to this message. and lets see what happens. I get my notification messages on main pages, but haven't done a test on email notifications if I check the watch list on LQT.
I've checked the watchlist -- and lets see what happens.