Discussion thread: Wiki Questions and Feedback

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32nd Online Workshop (November 23 - December 4, 2009)

Basic Wiki Skills and Collaborative Learning

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Discussion thread: Wiki Questions and Feedback

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• Hi, I guess I'm pretty confused about how to have a discussion. The discussion seems to have ended 14 days ago and was hosted back in November/December? Anyway, I've been going in circles for about 15 mins., so I'll just take a stab here and see what happens. My question pertains to photos: With the "frame" attribute, the photo will always be "actual size." And, you must have a "frame" to make a "caption"? Is this right? So.... My photo's "actual size" must've been beyond huge, yet, I wanted a caption. Then I would need to go into some photo editing program to make the photo in my gallery "smaller"? Thanks for any help you can offer!--Cduren 14:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

• Today I was reviewing all my pages and every page that had an "Objectives" Pedagological Template said that my objectives were something to do with nursing (can't remember now!)

I think you were using Template:Objective based on the edit history. There is also Template:Objectives which is the original (more stable version of the) template. Can you point to a specific example of the spelling mistake? Rob Kruhlak 17:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

- Wasn't a spelling mistake - I had followed the syntax given in the tutorial, adding my own appropriate text for each page. Everything was fine. A couple of days later I later looked at them and every one of the objectives boxes had replaced my text with {{{}The Goal of this learning module is to enchance nurses education regarding tissue repair and wound healing}}, Although, when I looked at the syntax in the edit version, my original text was still there, nothing had changed.

- When you go into edit on a page, down the bottom it tells you what templates are being used on that page.

- I clicked on the template link, which took me to the template which showed {{{}The Goal of this learning module is to enchance nurses education regarding tissue repair and wound healing}} had been added. This seemed to be overriding whatever text I put in.

- I then went to the history of the template page which showed this -

05:43, December 1, 2009 Jacapurro (Talk | contribs) (446 bytes) (undo)
07:46, February 18, 2008 Mackiwg (Talk | contribs) m (Protected "Template:Objective": High risk template [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) (undo)

- So I reverted to Mackiwg's February 18 version and this fixed the problem.

- From the above code, it looks like it should have been protected as it is a High Risk Template?

--Sandy Causer (aka Wakalena) 20:08, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

1) Thanks for reverting the page. This got cut from my original reply, " (FYI Padegological comes up as a spelling mistake - maybe that is not how you spell it? anyway, when you look at the alternatives one of the alternatives is Non-Logical LOL :-)." So my question was about the FYI but seemed to be asking about the difference in template names. Apologies.

2) When a page is protected is can have a time limit -- so it looks like it expired. Rob Kruhlak 21:54, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Sandy said--Back to the point, somebody had made a change to the master of the Objectives Template, so that every page I had it on said that my objectives were something to do with nursing (can't remember now!). I edited the Template Page to revert it to the previous version and the problem was fixed. Maybe there should be some pages, like the template pages, that should be locked off from accidental mistakes like this? That was a question and a comment.
--Sandy Causer (aka Wakalena) 08:38, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: It is possible to lock them off but can often restrict innovation more than it is worth. As you said it was easy to revert and see my comment above about the template. I would suggest using Template:Objectives but change the title if you want it to be singular. Example, {{Template:Objectives|Title=Objective|Add objective here}}

Rob Kruhlak 17:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
FYI Pedagological comes up as a spelling mistake - maybe that is not how you spell it? anyway, when you look at the alternatives one of the alternatives is Non-Logical LOL :-).

Pedagological is a spelling error and it should be Pedagogical. Can you please point to where Pedagological is used in the tutorial so we can correct it. Thanks Rob Kruhlak 21:54, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to waste your time on this - it was my spelling mistake - not in the tutorial. Never could spell!--Sandy Causer (aka Wakalena) 11:45, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

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• I am a bit confused about the discussions. I seem to be having them in two places (which I really don't mind). I seem to be getting questions and comments through the google group on my e-mail and there seems to be a series of discussions in the course. The two do not seem to connect. Am I doing something wrong. Thanks for your help. I am enjoying this immensely. --Joyce McKnight 18:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Joyce, Good question. We start out the discussions on google as it is most likely more familiar to our participants. As the workshop progresses and your wiki skills improve, we encourage the discussions to shift to the wiki. As everyone is not working at the same pace through the workshop it appears a bit disconnected but perfectly okay :-) Rob Kruhlak 19:58, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

• Where can i upload my picture in order to put it in my user page?(I asked it on the discussion page, but then I saw that we are actually supposed to add our questions here).

Re: Looks like you have figured it out already Mary :-) For those that have the same question, have a look at Tutorial 5 which we will be covering early next week. Rob Kruhlak 01:54, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

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feedback

• The tutorials were very useful
  • The idea of the sandbag was very interesting, we could borrow it to be used in learning management system

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Any suggestion on how to improve the workshop?

--Nboruett 14:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

suggestion

1. may for the we people with low bandwith we could have 'simulations' in place of the video. Though i think internet may improve in most parts of the world.

Thanks for your suggestion Norbert. I agree that the screencasts are difficult for low bandwidth connections and that they could probably be optimized a little. However, I'm not sure how a simulation would reduce the size of the file? Do you have any suggestions. Cheers Rob Kruhlak 15:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

~~user:norbert Rob - i think i meant animation is place of simulation. I enjoyed todays pedagogical templates. I have with this exe is developing content and uploading it to the Moodle. The beauty of exe as i found it is that it can used offline and later uploaded, so in places like here where connectivity is a problem- teachers can develop content offline and upload it later.The only slight challenge was that once content has been uploaded it cannot be edited. Otherwise a pedagogic template it is simply amazing, how have stayed without it- it is a tool worth exploring. The other thing, i was wondering whether it is possible to upload test items ie mcq and t/f and or hot potatoes i will also try but i didnt a syntax to support that. Or i am being a bit too imaginative?

Thanks

Re: Check out MCQ for examples. The syntax is not very user friendly but it works. To the best of my knowledge hot potatoes does not work in the wiki. For off-line editing you can also use Open Office and export as wiki text. Rob Kruhlak 17:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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