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Last edit: 18:31, 11 May 2008

I stumbled across the Human Physiology text on Wikibooks and saw this example of the Animal cell structure in svg (Scalable vector graphics) format.

Animal cell structure svg

Essentially this means you can blow up the picture as big as you want without loosing quality. It is also an open format which means it can easily be edited using free software -- You can download Inkscape and have a play. This means the manipulation of labels, eg leaving blanks for exercises, creating versions for coloring exercises etc is easier.


Yes we saw this image when looking at the text. We all decided that Ruth's simple black and white diagrams which she has created herself are much simpler for labelling and colouring in exercises which she would like to incorporate. --bron 05:31, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Mackiwg (talk)07:14, 10 May 2008

I have considered this diagram several times for worksheets etc. but it is just too busy and the colours do not lend themselves to black and white printing.

RLawson (talk)18:31, 17 May 2008

Hi Ruth,

I hear your concerns :-). The point is that this diagram is available in an open svg format which means its very easy to change the colors so that the diagrame is more suitable for black and white printing without much effort!

Download Inkscape and the diagram -- and have play around with changing the colours to suite your needs. This is the power of open formats <smile>.

If we really want to get fancy we could have a colour version for online viewing -- and a balck and white version that is optimized for pdf output.

Cheers Wayne

Mackiwg (talk)18:36, 17 May 2008

Hi Wayne, Nice to know you are online the same time as me. How can I put it nicely ------ I just dont like that diagram. I like mine much, much better!!!!!! I suppose though, that is not the point, its what the students like and certainly my students have expressed nothing but good comments on my diagrams saying how simple and clear they are to understand. The other issue is that I want a unified style to all the diagrams. I cann't see we can get that unless we/I have total control of them. Also it takes no time to do them!!!! Assuming I have a template I can whizz them off in no time. Cheers Ruth

RLawson (talk)19:10, 17 May 2008

Hi Ruth --

Yeah -- and you're working on a Saturday, and I'm working past my bedtime on a Friday!

I learned a long time ago that the gut feel of an academic is a very accurate instrument. I'm sure that your diagrams are, from a teaching perspective, an order of magnitude better than the example I was showing.

Mmmmm -- control over content and you're prepared to use a wiki <smile>. My point is about image formats and saving time .... pdf won't do that for you.

Given your speed in whizzing of diagrams -- now if you learned how to use Inkscape you would scale up your development capacity --- over time by an order of magnitude <smile>

Hey -- I need to get some sleep. Off to go camping tomorrow in Washington state -- its a long weekend.

Mackiwg (talk)19:16, 17 May 2008