Talk:Educators care/Introduction
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| Thread title | Replies | Last modified |
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| Introduction and my thinking | 0 | 20:58, 29 November 2012 |
| Definition of profession | 3 | 09:28, 25 January 2011 |
| More specific citation for first bullet | 5 | 09:23, 25 January 2011 |
Hi everyone! I am Mr. Dilip Kumar Darjee from Gangtok, the capital of Sikkim, a state under India. I am a Section Officer at the Institute of Competency Advance of Teachers (ICAT) located at Guwahati (Assam). I joined this workshop to learn about the topic and its courses so that i can manifest it correctly in my workplace and in interaction with others. In my opinion, the teaching is a profession as the teachers is meant for teaching throughout their life.
I am Mr. Belingtone Mariki from Tanzania. I am a Lecturer at the Institute of Adult Education. I joined this workshop to learn more about OER since its a new phenomenon in my country and most educational practitioners do not know about it. I am expecting to learn about open content how to create and access as well as copy right issues. In my opinion teaching is a profession simply because teachers learn in a college how to teach and acquire skills and knowledge on the methodologies and all technical part of it. It is a learned skill which has some rules of conduct.
A few points for discussion:
1. I think we should drop the "Compare learned profession". It's unnecessary and may be confusing without the link in the original.
2. Being that the content of the course is copyright, I think we should create a small footer at the bottom similar to the one used with the wp article to correctly cite the source. I'd then remove the link to dictionary.com in the lead up.
3. I suggest using this opportunity of using "all rights reserved" material in a CC BY OER to explain that it is fair use that allows this use, assuming I'm right about this.
Alison
Hi Alison,
1. Agreed -- drop "compare learned profession"
2. Agreed on citation reference link.
3. Agreed-- good opportunity to illustrate the use of "all rights reserved" quotations under fair dealing / fair usage. As an introductory "reflection" -- I'm wondering whether references to copyright at this point run the risk of confusing or holding up the reader. Perhaps a cursory comment or note at this point without too much detail? Its a great illustration opportunity -- we must just word appropriately to avoid unnecessary confusion, or introducing a complex concept which detracts from the purpose of the introduction. Thoughts?
I agree that reference to copyright should be limited at this point, but given the reference to the CC license above, seems appropriate to mention something here.
So I added a bit, but it seems long and overdone. Hopefully the fact that it's in small type will help learners who aren't ready to understand these concepts yet to gloss over it.
See what you think.
Alison
Hi Alison,
I think it works well, particularly with the small typeface. I tweaked the edit a little because copyright exceptions vary from country to country. All signatories of the Berne Convention agree to the use of quotations -- but the actual implementations may be different in each country -- for example how liberal the exception provisions are for educational purposes.
Cheers
Wayne,
I think we should provide a more specific citation for the statistic in the first bullet. The obvious reason is that it better substantiates the claim. But also, it would be nice to keep this number current over the next few years, and having a more specific source might help with that effort.
Thoughts?
Alison
Hi Alison,
I pulled the data from the online database hosted by UNESCO's Institute for Statistics. Because tables can be customised it was not easy to point to a specific url. --- Perhaps a more accurately labelled link?
Updating will need to be done manually --- sadly progress on this statistic is slow (so not too much work in updating the figure).
I thought maybe you had used the database, but didn't venture to try out the search mechanism. But now I did and with only a little fiddling, I got 34% for the 2008 gross enrolment ratio, total for Sub-S Africa.
My preference would be to create a footnote that lists the criteria for accessing the statistic using the "build your own table" feature. This way we have the info we need to update to 2009 and later data as it becomes available (even if it doesn't change much :( content with current references is more well-received).
Any objection to moving the whole UNESCO link to a footnote? But if its mention in the text lends authority we could start the bullet with "According to UNESCO institute for statistics..."
Alison
Alison,
That's a good suggestion to move the UNESCO link into a footnote. Much better solution. So no objections to moving this to a footnote.
Good thinking :-)
