# Talk:Governance Curriculum

## Contents

Dialogue between Expert Panels and Networked Collective Intelligence112:58, 29 April 2008
Feedback on 3rd bullet point111:47, 29 April 2008
Editing observations, notes, queries001:07, 17 March 2008

## Dialogue between Expert Panels and Networked Collective Intelligence

This space is reserved for a discussion to consider the merits of placing material mediated by experts alongside completely open and democratic wiki materials so that each has the benefit of learning from the other while exerting their knowledge and judgement in their own way to create distinctive outcomes.

This exercise raises questions about different kinds of knowledge and where they are located, as well as about processes of acquiring, refining, enhancing and distributing knowledge. There are also technical questions concerning how we would go about facilitating both approaches and interaction between them on this platform.

Wayne is a fountain of knowledge with years of experience facilitating this environment and watching it grow and so I propose to ask him some simple/dumb questions. In so doing I hope to create opportunities for newcomers such as myself to understand this complex and promising method of empowering people and tapping into widely dispersed intellectual resources (that would, but for this technology, remain largely inaccessible).

Wayne may migrate this discussion to a wider forum but this is meant to make a start.

A question: what kind of material, if any, lends itself to expert mediation and what is best left completely open to wiki democratic processes?

JB (talk)12:09, 29 April 2008

Hi JB,

I should qualify my biases before saying anything <smile> --

I am an educator and I believe that the fundamental purpose of education is to share knowledge freely. Consequently, I am of the opinion that all teaching materials should be released as part of the intellectual commons -- especially those materials which are indirectly funded by public money. Digital "knowledge" is infinitely scalable -- if you share a little of your knowedge with me, you still have it for yourself to use.

I have seen that open authoring approaches (like wikis) can produce very high quality materials and in WikiEducator we support open authoring approaches. I think all content is enriched by expert mediation where democratic processes and rules of engagement derived from consensus formulation produce high quality materials. I don't see that processes of expert mediation are at odds with open democratic authoring. Transparency is key -- i.e. transparency in the processes and consensus decisions we take on the rules of engagement.

I think we start treading on dangerous ground when we try to define who is "expert" and then restrict participation by those who don't meet our specified criteria of "expert". For example, I am by no means an expert on governance. I have had no formal training in the area of Governance, but have experienced governance as a layperson. I think I'm in a position to make valuable contributions to the governance discourse -- bu my contributions must be validated, for instance "rules" of substantiation and justification of the argument.

So I don't think open authoring approaches exclude expert mediation -- in fact I think they are encouraged in these environment, with the added advantage of creating opportunities for "experts" we may not have imagined participating. The counter argument in open authoring ecosystems is the fact that it's not in the interests of sustainable communities to develop poor quality content. From an evolutionary perspective -- communities producing questionable content would not sustain themselves.

For me, quality is not a binary argument between closed and open systems. I think quality is a process and has multiple perspectives.

Cheers

12:58, 29 April 2008

## Feedback on 3rd bullet point

Hi JB,

With reference to:

   *  civil society: through media coverage and training under the auspices of professional associations, charities, faith communities and other civil society organisations


...there is no explicit mention of NGOs...perhaps this is covered by your statemtent... In many countries (perhaps beyond Malawi), NGOs are the trusted organisation connecting directly to the grassroots, whereby the grassroots can learn about (different concepts and practices) of governance. The materials that COL is preparing on the WikiEducator - WikiGovernance node, will attend to the paucity of learning materials expressly designed for the use of NGOs, as they conduct their activities. We have a working name: the NGO Learning Design Toolkit for Governance

--Randy Fisher 21:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

10:48, 16 April 2008

Hi Randy, sorry for not getting back to the Discussion page sooner! Your point is very well taken and the gap was to some extent filled but using "CSO" terminology rather than "NGOs". I am not sure which we should employ. The two overlap to a considerable extent but I have not given much thought to differences that might influence our choice. Your views on this would be most welcome. - JB

JB (talk)11:47, 29 April 2008

## Editing observations, notes, queries

These are comments for colleagues at CoL:

I have not hyperlinked the first reference to the Millennium Development Goals because it is footnoted. I suspect that it will be too easy to hit the link rather than the footnote, especially if someone has disabilities that get in the way of precision.

I was wondering whether one can hyperlink automatically to a new tab/page rather than moving from the existing page. Backing up doesn't always work, or it may involve numerous steps, or is just disconcerting/inconvenient if you want to keep the original page or interim pages.

JB (talk)01:07, 17 March 2008