User talk:HelenL

Hi Helen,

Great graduation image - and congratulations on being the first user to implement the new Flickr attribution template, which I only finished late last night!

I noticed that the image is licensed under CC-BY-NC which does not qualify as a free content license (CC-BY or CC-BY-SA).

I guess there are two things we can do:


 * 1) Clearly specify that the image is a CC-BY-NC license. I'll try and work in a license statement into the template so that we meet the license requirements and clearly indicate that the image is not a free content license. Legally - we can get away with dual licensing in a situation like this - but we must specify which elements of the content don't fall under the CC-BY or CC-BY-SA license of WikiEducator.
 * 2) Find an alternative photo - I've had a quick look and not found an image that compares with the one you've uploaded. The best I found so far is:



OOh there is so much I still have to learn (especially wrt copyright)If we can still use this image by changing the license statement that would be good (my preference) but I can change it as well. Thanks for the advice, Helen 07:19, 17 June 2007 (CEST)

Further info on licensing of images ....
Hi Helen,

Licensing and copyright is a minefield. At times I wish we educators were exempt from copyright requirements - however, we must lead by example and not break the law or move into the grey areas of plagiarism that can arise from digital resources.

OK - I'll have a bash at trying to explain some of this stuff. The default license of WikiEducator is CC-BY-SA with the option of dual licensing under CC-BY which is Otago's preference. There are compatibility issues with mixing different types of CC licenses - for example we cannot include CC-BY-NC-SA with CC-BY-SA and release the derivative work as CC-BY-SA. However, in the case of discrete identifiable pieces of content - like an image, we are permitted to release the derivative work including the photograph provided that there is a clear statement of the specific license for the image. Therefore, for educational purposes the practice of including the CC-BY-NC-SA image is fine, but in other circumstances where the content may not be for traditional educational purposes, the users would need to find image alternatives in order to comply with the license. We have an obligation to clearly specify the license in adherence to the copyright restrictions of the original author.

Hope this makes sense.

--Mackiwg 19:26, 19 June 2007 (CEST)