Talk:VUSSC/Singapore BC/Workshop Planning/Archive

MYT6 Group - Preworkshop

Well preworkshop == preparation of workshop!!

Training needs analysis - Learners profile/educational background - Learners' expectations from the workshop. Time/eating preferences. etc

--Mohammad 07:12, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I agree that needs analysis should be given the first priority --Nadhiya 07:17, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I agree with the groups. I like the pre-workshop thoughts and the workshop implementation that have been suggested. --Curofficer 07:17, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I agree that some work should be given to the participants prior to the workshop because 3 days might be inadeate to train and this will also save some time for practical workshop activities.--Jdikinya 07:36, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I consider writing a proposal for the workshop as the second most important task

For effective training, time factor has to be seriously considered for the workshop. This involves planning for activities before,during and after the workshop.--Jdikinya 07:50, 13 March 2007 (CET)

--Nadhiya 07:19, 13 March 2007 (CET)

This gives a clear picture of the whole workshop --Nadhiya 07:22, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Sunflower group - list of workshop considerations should be one list and not two.--Curofficer 07:19, 13 March 2007 (CET)

To sunflower group.... For the needs analysis, simple questionnaire with not too many questions would suffice. Depending on the size of the cohort, individual interviews can also be made. If we want to know abt the learning preferences of learners then we can use standard learning style questionnaires.

--Mohammad 07:26, 13 March 2007 (CET)

budget
The budget is an important issue. But i guess its in the pre-workshop as it is a determining factor to decide whether we go on with the project or not. Unless we are commissioned by an agency/government or school who are willing to spend on staff training programmes

--Mohammad 07:20, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Budget - I think that even if we are commisioned by an agency or the government, which I think most of us will be required to do upon return to our countries, we will still need to prepare a budget. This will help to guide almost everything about the workshop. --Curofficer 07:25, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I agree with the idea to look at pre-workshop, workshop and post-workshop activities. However, we need to think this through carefully in plenary.

I agree that the budget should be considered under the pre-workshop section I would however suggest that there be some funding available for post-workshop activities.--Ksthill 07:26, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Budget is critical but one would think that there would be ministerial/ departmental approval for the workshop. If that is so then the question of budget shouldnt be problematic unless one has lobster and wine on the menu --Ainsworthovid 07:38, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Some institutions may have already made annual budgetary plans. However this should not be a problem are mechanisms to solicit corprate sponsors for such projects --Johnclyde 07:38, 13 March 2007 (CET)

evaluation
I think evaluation is a critical component of the structure of ODL materials and should be included in the presentation of Wikivelopers

evaluation
I think evaluation is a critical component of the structure of ODL materials and should be included in the presentation of Wikivelopers --Pfinlay 07:27, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I agree with the idea to look at pre-workshop, workshop and post-workshop activities. However, we need to think this through carefully in plenary.--Jerrybeukes 07:28, 13 March 2007 (CET)

You may also want to consider the inclusion of community building workshop activities - moreso of a social nature to facilitate bonding and promote collaboration and relationship building among participants. This would likely require further provisions in the budget.--Ksthill 07:29, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Workshop objectives
Objectives Major: to create ODL materials using sound instructional design principles� Expose participants to the principles of ODL� Help learners to develop skills in the use of the relevant technologies� Expose participants to various instructional design models

The above have been identified by MYT6. I do not totally agree with the whole content. I suggest we discuss objectives further, make amendments if needed and finalise.

The approach taken bay MY T6 was to identify the Major objectives of the workshop and then to deal with the specific learning outcomes that now applies the kind of verbals that would lead to measureable outcomes--Ainsworthovid 07:46, 13 March 2007 (CET) --Fernesta1 07:31, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Of course, its not the ideal Fiona. Needs to be amended and refined further.

--Mohammad 07:37, 13 March 2007 (CET) The approach taken bay MY T6 was to identify the Major objectives of the workshop and then to deal with the specific learning outcomes that now applies the kind of verbals that would lead to measureable outcomes --Ainsworthovid 07:42, 13 March 2007 (CET)

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Committment to Project
As we have discussed ourselves, we need to get committment from the employers of the workshop participants, that they will be given the time and resources to fully particpate in a project like this. This should therefore form a major part of the pre-planning activities. --Curofficer 07:32, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I quite agree wit the idea of getting to know your target audience.And this should be a necessary pre -workshop activty. --Johnclyde 07:32, 13 March 2007 (CET)

WikiVelopers
I believe that the Wikieducators have done a good job in putting together what should have been done in the Workshop. --Adesuwa 07:34, 13 March 2007 (CET)

budget-this project is to be done in four months or so, how can it be included in the workplan when it is not budgeted in the Education recurrent budget which has been already approved for this year,furhtermore, where would the financial assistance come from? --Evotia 07:41, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I sugest that evealuations be done at the end of each session and then pulled together in the last day and these can lead to recommendations for future workshops.

--Lhiawalyer 07:37, 13 March 2007 (CET)

i agree that pre-planning should state the participants,facilitators, the rationale, objectives which can beused to determine content.logistics/venue ,time/duration/accommodation/ transport/ meals

the doing part will be determined by approaches that can be used make the objectives a reality' for an example the use of a participative approach which usually dertemine tasks, activities that can enhance aquisition of skills that have to be learnt.

discussion of the way forward plan

evaluation of workshop

--Dumile 07:38, 13 March 2007 (CET)

To Tomato group
I take the idea of "Selection and distribution of content"an important task.Considering the design principles,how we assemble instructional materials are imperative. --Nadhiya 07:39, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Needs assessment in the Sunflower and Mountain Chicken Group
The needs assessment\analysis is critical so as to ascertain the level of prepareness of the participants to claim ownership of the training and to find out their level of IT skills and background knowledge.--Stephenjoseph 07:40, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Follow up
I suggest that as follow up to what we are actually doing we move on to putting the content that has been produced under the three headings: pre-workshop, workshop, post-workshop. We can then identify gaps and start to fill these gaps. --Fernesta1 07:40, 13 March 2007 (CET)

About this discussion
This discussion is very interesting and fruitful. But what we need to be careful about these types of discussion is to be able to Stop and Finalise. Dats the same problem as using the spiral life cycle model of systems development.

On the other hand, in the fear of spiralling, we should just not stop and finalise an 'average' level content. That would be to the detriment of 'quality assurance'

--Mohammad 07:40, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I agree with you Mohammad. --Curofficer 07:42, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I am of the same opinion Mohmmad --Johnclyde 07:46, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Needs Analysis
I'm not sure why we think a needs analysis is still necessary. In my view, we should work on the assumption that a needs assessment has been conducted and that there is a definite need to develop materials for the intended programme(s). I don't think we should factor this into our planning unless I am missing the point. We need to focus on our main objective, i.e. to train people to develop high quality DE materials.--Jerrybeukes 07:40, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I think a needs analysis is still necessary to direct us to areas of focus ( or areas which need more attention) during training,especially when we are dealing with experienced practitioners.--Jdikinya 08:02, 13 March 2007 (CET)

I am in total agreement with you. If we are going to conduct a needs assessment, then it may be to determine which content area would yield the best results. I also feel that it is to be assumed that there is this need already identified [maybe as part of a strategic plan] or in an institution's vision. As such it is safe to just start the formal planning--Curofficer 07:47, 13 March 2007 (CET)

The needs analysis may also help to address the variations of particpants in terms of skills and knowledge of content--Jdikinya 08:09, 13 March 2007 (CET)

This may betrue if there were previous work done. But don'tyou think that it would help to know somethings about the participants with regard to ODl. this is os particularly where ODl is basically a new thing. Working on assumptions sometime not all that great. --Johnclyde 07:51, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Wikivelopers - Budget
That concern is a valid one. The reality is that budgets have already been approved and so there will be concerns as to where thr funding will come from. Countries or institutions with committed funds for ODL development are fine. The challenge will come from thsoe without. I think that this is where it will require persons to become very creative and develop proposals for funding. It may also require that funds airmarked for certian projects be re-scheduled. It will require committment from the decision makers.--Curofficer 07:40, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Just an idea ..How about renaming as The Rationale instead of "major objectives",since aims and objectives will come under the Rationale. --Nadhiya 07:47, 13 March 2007 (CET)

i agree that pre-planning should state the participants,facilitators, the rationale, objectives which can beused to determine content.logistics/venue ,time/duration/accommodation/ transport/ meals

the doing part will be determined by approaches that can be used to make the objectives a reality' for an example, the use of a participative approach which usually dertemine tasks, activities that can enhance aquisition of skills that have to be learnt.

discussion of the way forward plan

evaluation of workshop

--Dumile 07:42, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Observations
I think that the information provided by the groups compliment each other and can be further consolidated. I think that the Wikivelopers group suggestions were quite comprehensive and some could be sloted under preworkshop activities and the majority of it under During Workshop; Tomato group seemed to focus generally on preworkshop activities looking at logistics and then on workshop curriculum content which would be used mainly During Workshop. Both Sunflower & MT6 groups had great comprehensive structure that to my mind would be well utilized under the PRE-WORKSHOP section. My suggestion therefore is that we group these under relevant sections and eliminate redundancies.

--Ksthill 07:43, 13 March 2007 (CET)

WikiVelopers
I suggest that WikiVelopers use the materials that the other groups suggested to plan the portion sof the work we did not focus on. I am sure you thought of that already.

If we worked it like this ( this is very important for the successof the training --Augustmoon 07:57, 13 March 2007 (CET)
 * Pre-Workshop
 * Title of Workshop
 * Target Group/size
 * Objectives
 * Pre-workshop activities
 * Workshop design
 * Delivery structure
 * Resources
 * Design, distribute and evaluate pre-test instrument to participants (2wks prior)
 * Locate appropriate facilities and resources
 * Organize secretariat to administrate workshop- registration, lunch etc.
 * Send invitations to Ministry, media and other officials
 * Ensure that resource personnel are in place for digital recording of proceedings


 * Workshop

Use our stuff here


 * Post workshop

Okay then we can put otehr stuff here --Charlesmcsweeney 07:43, 13 March 2007 (CET)

In addition: --Augustmoon 08:03, 13 March 2007 (CET) Post workshop: Evaluate learning outcomes / Output Learning Outcomes At the end of the workshop, learners should be able to: Produce an instructional plan for a course Structure their content using the COL instructional template/alternative pre-structured ISD templates Do collaborative content authoring using appropriate software Publish content on an elearning platform

Reporting is important to indicate to donors etc on the level of success of the training --Augustmoon 08:03, 13 March 2007 (CET)

follow-up workshop
Iwould sugggest that a folow-up workshop should be included in the planning so as to to evaluate the impact of the training on the educators.I would suggest this be done within 6 month to 1 year after the 3 days workshop--Stephenjoseph 07:44, 13 March 2007 (CET)

To WikiVelopers
This group did not do a thorough job on the pre-planning part. --Shokahle 07:47, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Will the trainee in this workshop be expert for a specific subject area or for any subject area?

I would like to know of the possibility of doing a workshop to create a cohort of ODL material writers. Since most courses are already in existence then once the necessary training has been received the trainees can now apply their skills to any materails for any subject area to convert to ODL materials. --Pfinlay 07:47, 13 March 2007 (CET)

Pre Workshop Activities
In addition to preparation and planning for logistics such as venue, budget, course material etc, provision should probably be made for the teacher educators to have some input into the content and delivery of the programme. They can for example be provided with information on ODL and asked to indicate the areas about which they need more information/skills.They can also be asked to indicate aspects about which they have some measure of expertise that can be utised in the training programme. This should assist facilitators in determing prior learng on which they can build. --Ruthalithom 08:17, 13 March 2007 (CET)