Thread:Wiki Groups Integration (1)

Posting this via LQT on behalf of User:Simonfj.--Eloquence 21:42, 12 December 2007 (CET)

Hi Wayne, Just trolling and making a few edits. The first one being to link to your user page to this domain, rather than just COL. You might want to ask your mates to do samo. It's a bit distracting; the only option to be sent onwards.

Notice you're on the advisory board (AB) to the WMF, which hopefully means you've met Sue Gardner or will shortly. Do you have a comms manager? I'm after someone like Sandy O from meta. I'm also interested in whether you have a syop/admin who is across the geek stuff (tools).

One thing which is perfectly obvious around the WikiFoundation traps is that their communities' comms is a dog's breakfast, (please don't mind my terminology. I mean no offence). The primary problem is that every conversation is split between a users talk page and a (let's call them) mentor's. (admin in wikispeak). You can see it if you want to leave a message on my user page. I'll reply on yours and so we can be certain that no one will learn a bloody thing. (the bloody is optional).

So I can see where you're going with the Liquid threads. But I'm sure you have wider expectations than that if your on the WMF advisory. A starting point? Just click on the Communication Projects Group. This is the attempt to bring the Wikifoundation Projects comms to a head, so if you'd like to encourage the movement to include WE you might ask a comms person to put a flag in the sand on this page.

I think, eventually, the AB are going to see the need for a Forum as a wider approach to threads. So I'll point you at this one to ruminate on over Christmas. minus the ads of course. It's around 250 on Alexa's top 500, so you know I'm not trying to introduce a tool which isn't link home for the next generation, today.

Enough, You can see I talk to too much. Please understand I've been watching too many threads say the same things, in a different place, a different time, so from my perspective it may be time to put Humpty Dumpty back to together. It doesn't seem to be hard to see how, as long as we think in terms of global groups rather than national or project domains. The hard thing is using the right tool for the right job. So many tools, so many opinions and one size won't fit all. We have a lot to learn, and measure.

Merry Christmas and a happy New year. P.S. Would you have a play with this page. I always leave (so much) room for improvement. This one might help Stephen Downes and Co to feel a little included.