EL4C22 Feedback

Please use this page for any questions and/or suggestions you may have throughout the course.
 * Please click on edit tab (top of this page) or  [edit]  link (right side of participant's entries), scroll down to " ==Your name here== ", replace text by your name, enter your comments, questions or suggestions, then click on "save page" button.
 * Please add your Username and/or your wiki-signature at the end of your entry. For instructions on how to add or personalize your wiki-signature see help page Signature.

Thank you =) Begin Here Please download the L4C [[Media:LearningcontractA.pdf|Learning Contract]]. Fax +1 604 775 8210 or [mailto:pschlicht@col.org email] Attention to Patricia Schlicht

Ben
I signed up for this workshop with the hopes of continuing with more advanced tutorials. Will this be possible?--Benjamin Stewart 16:39, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Benjamin, we will do our best to support where you are at, and what you hope to achieve. Please do think about the Pilot Project you would like to do, and then we can help you with specifics related to that project ~ it will give you a greater sense of satisfaction and understanding with the process....and along the way, you / we may be able to identify others who share your interest! Randy Fisher 18:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Randy, thanks for your response. I have an idea for a project but I´m not sure which WikiAmbassador or WikiTrainer to contact. Whom might this person be?--Benjamin Stewart 03:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ben - send me an email offline. I can help you, or find the appropriate person. Randy Fisher 16:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Great. Is this the email I should use (wikriandy@yahoo.com)?  I tried sending an email to this address but it's not going through.--Benjamin Stewart 18:10, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi all! I look forward to my second WE workshop, learning more about WE along with each one of you.  I´m an EFL teacher educator and foreign language coordinator at the UAA, and I´m interested in how TESOL and Web 2.0 can live as one (smile).  My main goal in this brief workshop is to find a space within the WE community where my coding questions can be answered once this workshop is over.  I had such a great experience during my first workshop that I felt (and feel) a bit frustrated afterwards not being able to find the technical support I needed to do what I wanted to do in WE.  And this has no reflection on the fine folks at WE, rather me going through the learning process which I'm ready to continue with everyone over the next week.--Benjamin Stewart 04:57, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Ben, welcome again to the workshop. I am keen to help. Let's do this: please, transcript your questions to this area, so we all can be able to contribute on solving them. :-). --Gladys Gahona 14:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, here are my questions and general WE suggestions that I have:


 * I remain a pending member at the WE google group and I'm not sure why. See simplybox to view the message I got from Google Groups.  Regardless if it's a WE or a Google issue, my main contention is why we use google groups at all.  In my humble opinion. all discussions (whether in a workshop or otherwise) should be held in WE - just as you´ve ask me to do here in posting my questions again within this workshop. One argument is that people should be given the choice to participate within WE or in Google groups, whichever they feel more comfortable with.  And if this is the argument, then why require participants to login to WE in order to make page edits and Kaltura video edits...something I am not in favor of.  In other words, why not keep all the coding and technical support discussions within WE and give all participants the right to edit WE pages and Kaltura videos without having to create a WE account.  If everyone could edit pages and Kaltura videos (with or without a WE account), then more people along the "long tail" would be participating as opposed to just those at the "head".


 * Your Main Discussion Group account is now OK. Please log in the Main Google Discussion Group, so we can be sure everything is normal. Please be certain, your suggestions will be considered by policy makers in WikiEducator.--Gladys Gahona 15:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * ¡Qué milagro! I can now get into the main discussion group!  Thank you very much Gladys for looking into this and resolving the issue!!  Also, thanks for passing along my suggestions.--Benjamin Stewart 19:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * How does one delete the seven media clips picture here at the right-hand side of the edit screen in Kaltura? See here to view a picture of what I´m referring to - a picture is worth a thousand words in this case.


 * I followed the link, but I stopped here: Special:KalturaVideoEditor, please put the WikiEducator URL where Kaltura object is. --Gladys Gahona 20:42, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It's in my messy sandbox and it's titled "test".--Benjamin Stewart 21:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)




 * Is this course appropriate for discussing how to insert widgets (i.e., youtube, bliptv, twitter, etc.)? Sergey was kind enough to respond to my inquiry regarding widgets (see simplybox) but it's still technically over my head.  I´d love to see an example and have a discussion with someone willing to "hold my hand" through this coding process.


 * Including widgets to WikiEducator is still under discussion at the Community Council. --Gladys Gahona 15:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, I´m not sure exactly what this means, but ok. Widgets do work in WE, right?  It seems that the future of any web site design is it's ability to integrate technologies (i.e., embedding voicethread, youtube, bliptv, twitter, to wiki).  Is the question whether widgets should be part of WE, or how widgets are to be used in WE?  Just curious.--Benjamin Stewart 19:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I also would love WikiEducator permit embedding objects and other stuff like that. I don't think it is a tech issue, I think it is more related to a conflict between open source code and propietary codes. --Gladys Gahona 20:42, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that WikiEd will allow embedding of 3rd party media, as long as their is an export to an open source protocol. Blip.tv fits into this category. This will be announced sometime in 2009 Randy Fisher 16:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Again, all these questions are addressed in my WE SimplyBox. All comments, suggestions, advice, etc. are greatly appreciated!--Benjamin Stewart 03:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it possible to extend the CC-BY-SA license in WE to a CC-BY-NC-SA?


 * No. Please read WikiEducator FAQs.--Gladys Gahona 23:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Gladys is right on. All content within WikiEducator is licensed without a non-commercial restriction. We believe in the right of people to make a living. We strive for as much freedom as possible on the wiki - and you are welcome to use any content anywhere on WikiEducator for just about anything! Randy Fisher 16:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there a live meeting scheduled for day 3?--Benjamin Stewart 21:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd like to confer with Gladys and the group about this - to see what the demand is... of course, if there's only one person! then that may be demand enough....still, let me check and get back to you. We're thinking of having a day of rest, after today, to let others catch up, so day 3, wouldn't be until day 4, which would really be day 3 of the course! Randy Fisher 16:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem. I just saw it in the schedule and was curious.


 * I have an image at this site (at the bottom of the page) and I don't see the code to delete it. Any ideas? Or am I just not seeing it.


 * Your page, and decens of other pages uses Template:Media. It was designed using an image named "Icon multimedia.gif", clicking on it takes you to the corresponding image page. Look at the previous versions, User:Gpradeep inadvertently uploaded an image which has exactly the same title as the one of mentioned icon. This is a usual error which ocurs when a user, uploading images bypasses the system warning of a pre-existent image which has the same name. This kind of errors should be highlighted on "uploading images" tutorials in order to prevent its occurrence. I just reverted the uploading, then correct icon is active again. Thanks for the catch.--Gladys Gahona 03:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the fix and explanation! --Benjamin Stewart 17:07, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Question:From my user page, I go to the following page: My watchlist>There are new messages for you. There I find a list of messages and next to each message there is a box the reads read.  Thinking read was in the present tense and not sure what would happen afterwards, I clicked on this button which immediately caused the message to disappear from this page.  Where do read messages (in the past tense) go?''' --Benjamin Stewart 14:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Read is in past tense. Button mark post as already read. Where messages go... interesting question... let me digg a bit more --Gladys Gahona 18:01, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Ben, there are two parts on New messages page: Messages sent to you and Messages on other talk pages, when you click read button next to any message, you can find this message on your discussion page for the first case and on the original discussion page for the second one. For messages located on other discussion pages you should be sure you know the name of the page before click the button. After you click button, you can find an undo button located at top of the page, next to Threat "name of your message" marked as read after you click read button, but you can use it for recover the last message only. It means, if you click another message as read, you only will be able to recover the last one, if you leave the page and return to page again, this button will dissappear too. There is another button called Mark all as read located at the left side of the top on your New messages page if you wanted to mark as read all your messages. I hope this help you. --George_Mty 05:29, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Gita

 * Hi Randy. Many of us have our user page, do we need to start a new user page for this EL4C22? Please clarify. Can we just add a Sub-page, to the existing user page if a separate one is needed for this Advanced workshop? Gita Mathur --Gita Mathur 01:06, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 *  Hello Gita, it's great to see you here. You might want to keep a log for this Workshop. I would be a great idea to create a subpage named /Log of my EL4C22 Workshop/ .--Gladys Gahona 13:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello Gladys, nice to be together again. I have started a subpage for this workshop and even planned my pilot project. Please keep visiting Section 5 on my user page & help me learn. Warm wishes--Gita Mathur 14:14, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I always visit your lovely page looking for great ideas, and always find them! I will be happy to learn along with you again :-). --Gladys Gahona 14:22, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello Randy and Gladys, please see my Pilot Project work at the link below & give your feedbacks. Should I continue working at it? User:Gita_Mathur/Advanced_Learner_Workshop_EL4C22/Innovations_in_Teaching_Plant_Sciences I am enjoying the lively interactions on this feedback page. Warm wishes Gita --Gita Mathur 07:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 *  Hi Gita - it's a good start - who is the project for? It's always good to know your audience! I know that Patricia and her Teacher Education Collaboration forum would be interested in this.... Randy Fisher 16:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks Randy. The project is for teachers. More will be clear when I add under the headings. Just wanted you to see it once. Warm wishes. --Gita Mathur 01:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 *  I love the idea. Looking forward to see its development. --Gladys Gahona 01:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Dear participants, please see this link for some useful tips for uploading photos and images http://wikieducator.org/User:Gita_Mathur/Advanced_Learner_Workshop_EL4C22#Some_useful_tips_are. --Gita Mathur 10:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Very good idea to maintain this Feedback page. I have written the log for this workshop at the following link http://wikieducator.org/User:Gita_Mathur/Advanced_Learner_Workshop_EL4C22. I will spend more time on each activity and polish my skills further. There sure was an 'Advance" feel to the whole workshop. Thanks Randy, Gladys and Patricia for all your efforts & good work. Gita --Gita Mathur 10:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Adriana

 * Hi everybody! I am Adriana Hollenbeck. I was born in Rio de Janeiro - Brazil but now I live in the United States. I've worked with Technology and Education for quite some time when I was in Rio. After graduating from Art College I decided to go back to school and get credits in Technology and Education. I am part of a Research Group for the Pontifical Catholic University in Rio and I am also part of a team in charge of an educational Website (www.edukbr.com.br). I still teach from here using AulaNet's Platform. I am very excited to be part of this group and I am looking forward to learn and share with all of you!--Adriana Hollenbeck 02:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Welcome Adriana, keep posting here, soon this page will be full of interesting wikicodes (just turn to edit mode and revise each entry, so you are learning wiki skills as you give your feedback :-).--Gladys Gahona 14:08, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * ''Hi Gladys! I am not having enough time for the Workshop as I expected but I am sure I won't leave this place anymore! There's so much potential! Take care! --Adriana Hollenbeck 15:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * ''Hi Adriana, I am leveraging new and emerging technology in education in order to to close measurable learning gaps. Is AulaNet your learning management system, learning content management system, other? Jim R C Baker 15:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Carolyn

 * Hello, am Carolyn nice to meet good people here and getting deeper into the web2.0 platform more.Am experienced with the wikieducator and wikispaces where i have projects .Am excited to go to the next level i have always looked for.

Questions

1. When i opened the page i read we attian the wiki masterframework, yet the contract says we earn wikibuddy .what does these add upto

2. How do i add color to my page/ make words colored + background(Gitur ilike your page great!)


 *  This workshop will tell you how, meantime, click on  [edit]  link, study code of this message :-) . --Gladys Gahona 13:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

3. How do i expand my text a little bit bigger


 *  This text is little bigger . Try yourself by playing with "font-size" property value (switch to edit mode). --Gladys Gahona 13:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

4. How do i draw to boxes for content on a page like: http://wikieducator.org/India there work is in three boxes


 * This is a more complex code, please let's wait this workshop runs a bit more, then I'll gladly explain the code. No doubts you will be able to create a beautiful 3 columns & nice borders template :-).--Gladys Gahona 15:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

5. or how do i draw a vertical line on my page to separate it into for content division on each side. --Gladys Gahona 15:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC) I also think we can have our same user pages, wont our attained qualifications get lost in the new pages. Otherwise thanks for reading ,hope we have a wonderful time here again,God willing when we are still alive cheers everyone.--carly 12:58, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Deeply appreciate your wishes. --Gladys Gahona 15:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Dear Gladys, that was very beautifully explained. Thanks from all the learners. Gita--Gita Mathur 07:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Karuna
Hmm...more confusion. Is this page in addition to: 1. wikieducator, 2. the class site which already had a discussion page and is already in my favorites and so easy to find (unlike this one that is just in an email that I won't be able to find in future)? I have unfortunately downloaded Google Chrome and it has deleted lots of my regular buttons so I'm having trouble finding anything that is new. There is no favorites star on it so I don't know how to add favorites anymore. I have left an email in a box about something else on Google to try to get instructions to uninstall it and get the old version back but I don't have much hope that I'll actually get a response. If anyone knows what I can do to get rid of Google Chrome and go back to what I had I would be very grateful to hear about it. Just so you know, I have a very short fuse with new stuff and frustration with technology in particular, since my Lymes disease has affected my brain chemistry so severely. I'm sorry if I appear to be negative most of the time, I just get SO frustrated. I am actually excited to be learning how to do this but it is SO slow and not fun. I'm intending that it will be fun once I actually can use the technology without going in circles. For example, the 45 minutes given for time each day tends to be more like 2-3 days for me. Since I don't like being on the computer these hours and hours of not having it do what I want are very draining and discouraging. So you know that I must be very, very persistent and insistent to still be trying. I am proud of that. I regret that you may hear much frustration from me while I'm pushing myself. I would prefer to offer you inspiration. Perhaps accepting myself where I am, in my frustration, might be inspiring to some of you. Best wishes for a great workshop. --Karuna 01:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC) last time I used this stamp it didn't work. I wonder if it will this time?


 * Yes Karuna, this page is part of the WikiEducator pages of workshop EL4C22. One goal of the workshop is to learn wiki skills. This is the page where all your peers are adding their feedback, comments, questions, etc. Notice you are already practicing your skills each time you edit this page and write something. You are learning to navigate inside WikiEducator pages, and, as I can see, you have learned to sign your editions. That's a great progress. WikiEducators learn at our own pace, even we are slow, we keep learning. I'm glad you are proud of your perseverance so you know how important is congratulating yourself for each achieve. Please keep writing here and sharing your insights. I'll be in touch. --Gladys Gahona 04:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Hala

 * How can I upload my photo?


 * Here's a tutorial. --Benjamin Stewart 22:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

How can I change the color of my font? I hope I am not jumping to the end of the stick!!!! This is my second time to join WE, but still, I feel that I am not comfortable when exploring around the "area". Thanks in advance.


 * How to upload Photo.Please see these links Help:Images, Images, along with link to Tutorial Ben put above --Gladys Gahona 15:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Color of font. This is a red colored text, you can change value of "color" property to many color names like blue, purple, fuschia, yellow, salmon, green, brown, coral, cyan, orange, etc. Just click on  [edit]  link (right side of your name), see codes for this text, play with other color names, save and see what happens :-)


 * Feelings. It is absolutely normal you feel uncomfortable, this is yet an unfamiliar territory for you. Just be perseverant, do things one step at the time. Please, count on me anytime. I'll be in touch. --Gladys Gahona 15:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi again, Thanks for the prompt response!:-)Hala


 * Also, check out the color codes site to see the wide variety of colors available.


 * Hi Hala, nice to see your interest in colours. they make the page more clear to follow & of course more attractive to the learner. I enjoy colours & will be happy to help if needed. Gita Mathur --Gita Mathur 07:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Carol

 * I'm not sure where along the line we learned about the signature business, but I seem to have missed it. User:Ccross


 *  It's easy to miss these things. I would recommend reviewing the videos (there's one for each day) - Nellie does a great job explaining and showing exactly how to do many of these tasks.'' --Benjamin Stewart 18:24, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, let's see if this fixes that--Carol No....I set up a signature in preferences, but it is not showing up here....
 *  Hi Carol, please click on "my preferences" and see what is written in Signature box. If box is empty, write again your desired personalized signature. Click on "Save" button. Sometimes you need to "refresh" your browser's cache in order to get changes done, read carefully the instructions located in the bottom lines of "my preferences" page. Here is a transcription of those instructions:

Note - After saving, you may have to bypass your browser's cache to see the changes. Mozilla / Firefox / Safari: hold Shift while clicking Reload, or press either Ctrl-F5 or Ctrl-R (Command-R on a Macintosh); Konqueror: click Reload or press F5; Opera: clear the cache in Tools → Preferences; Internet Explorer: hold Ctrl while clicking Refresh, or press Ctrl-F5.
 *  Hope it helps--Gladys Gahona 02:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

My signature box says "Carol Cross", I don't have raw signature checked, and my language is English. But the signature isn't showing up...unless it does now...Nope


 *  What browser do you have? Have you made the refreshing cache procedure above according to your browser? Remember your signature shows up until you have clicked on "Save page" button. --Gladys Gahona 03:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm using Foxfire and followed the browser cache procedure, but that still hasn't changed anything.

Well, I'm still have the signature problem. However, I was doing the Day 4 assignments today and leaving comments on various other participants pages, etc. But I noticed that on the participants page, my name isn't blue and clickable and the learning contract doesn't say signed, even though I sent mine in. Is there something else that I need to do to have my participant information updated?


 *  Thank you for the comment. I'll fix your link in Participant's page. Did you send your learning contract to Patricia? be sure your "Signed" mark will be soon on. I've made some graphic instructions on Help:Signature, please revise it. --Gladys Gahona 14:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 *  Please, switch to edit mode (click on edit tab), write someting, finish you text clicking on [[Image:Button sig.png]] button. You will see this wikicode shows up (do not change it):  --~ , now save page (you will turn to published mode). Let us see what shows up here --Gladys Gahona 03:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Brian Evans
Hi. I got a welcome message from Nedal (Wikineighbour) on my user page. I have three questions: 1. Did he post that by editing my user page? (I am guessing so) 2. When I am done viewing his message do I have to edit it out? 3. What is the easiest way to respond to him? If I click on his name it takes me to his user page. From there I can find his email... and then I can open my gmail account and email him... is that the most efficient way to respond? Thank you. --Brian Evans 02:32, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Regarding to your third question, I would add that since WE is all about networking, I would leave all your responses to comments from your wikineighbors either in your main page or under the discussion tab so that you have access to these people should you later want to collaborate. For me, should someone visit my page and not be interested in what I'm doing - heaven forbid (smile) - they still can see my wikineighbors' comments should they want to collaborate with them instead. Either way, it's all good! Plus, if you leave your responses all in the same place, you can remember what you talked about with that particular person. Moreover, if you get in the habit of emailing your wikineighbors you're depriving others of your worthy ideas, beliefs, attitudes, etc.''' --Benjamin Stewart 20:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * 1. Yes, he edited your page,as all wikineihbours do :-)
 * 2. You can edit anything is published in your User Page. It's up to you.
 * 3. You've just found several ways to communicate with other WikiEducators. We use all of them. The point is never being isolated. Just keep in mind, anything you post in WikiEducator is public. Email & chat facilitates a more private conversation.--Gladys Gahona 02:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Gladys. --Brian Evans 03:03, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

1. Have you experienced a gap between your initial expectations and your experience on the wiki? Explain.
 * Here are my brief answers to the questions posed in today's module:

Well, to be honest I did not exactly know what to expect. I was just reading different online content and searching for free online Econ textbooks and I kinda sorta ended up here.

2. How have your expectations changed, as a result of your experience and skills development? Explain.

Yes, now I have some expectations! I have so far not been successful in finding Econ content that would be an acceptable substitute for a textbook here in the wiki world. Perhaps I have just not searched correctly yet.... but if it actually is not there then I can envision setting up the framework for an WE Econ course.

3. Analyse what you have learned so far about the wiki experience.

It is intimidating at first... but these modules are great. I am learning at my own pace and am confident that I can become proficient enough someday to make helpful contributions.

4. How could it be applied to your work context and professional development?

I think this was answered above... I can easily see integrating WE-created content into my courses.

Nadia
The second one was easier to follow. I am here because I still think I need to learn more. For example someone pointed out that the pictures I uploaded on my wikieducator page should be put on mediawiki and they did it for me. But actually I am not sure of that part. Also videos, if I would like to add something how should it be registered. Maybe we are getting to this later. -- Nadia El Borai 12:50, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This is my third WE workshop. The first one I took was during a busy time and although it said you only need a short time everyday, it seemed to take me forever.


 * Nadia, thanks for hanging in there....working on the wiki, is truly a work-in-progress. I keep finding that there are new things I have to learn, and I've been at this for awhile. Hang in there, and we appreciate your willingness to help others...who are at a different stage in their learning journey. -- Randy Fisher 15:12, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Teresa
--teresa 15:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 1)  I had experienced a gap between my initial expectations and this first  experience on the wiki, I can not understand the logic, not yet, I am trying hard , I think I will in the next couple of days.  But before the workshop I thought it was much more difficult , I thought that it was only for a few very skilled persons.


 * 1) How have your expectations changed, as a result of your experience and skills development? I found lots of tips and help from the group, even if I am not responding I am reading it and try the solutions like for the signature.
 * 2) Analyse what you have learned so far about the wiki experience? Still early to comment, I feel I can do it but need more time
 * 3) How could it be applied to your work context and professional development ? I think i need this skills to chose the best  e-learning  methodology to develop in my profession, specially with in-service teacher training

Brian Evans
I searched "Economics" in WikiEducator and found one sentence. Does that mean there is basically nothing written for econ in WE yet? I doubt that... probably if I search under specific topics I will find lots of content. Still it would seem there would be links from a search of Economics to economic-related topics.

I clicked on the history of the page and found the one sentence was uploaded in January 2009.

I clicked on the contributor and found he is a teacher from Kenya.
 * ''Brian, I like your question about economics on WE. The Open Education Resource is awesome. Perhaps you could take a look at creating an Econ OER. Hope this helps! Jim R C Baker 15:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 *  Here are two links:Economics_Marshall, Economics_Definition.--Gladys Gahona 17:44, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Benjamin Stewart
1. Have you experienced a gap between your initial expectations and your experience on the wiki? Explain.

Yes, my initial expectation was being able to create the same content in WE as I can in wikispaces. I am still trying to close this gap by learning new code.
 * Brian, your expectation is consistent with much of the feedback we've received from other learners. When I first tried out Wiki Spaces, and tried it out with more than three people in a group, it was then that I experienced its serious limitations (i.e., a great deal of time lag / page hanging) during the "save" process. It really got in the way of building the creative editing energy - this free-flowing energy is one of the things I really love about WikiEd; the other thing is the supportive and responsive Community. Randy Fisher

2. How have your expectations changed, as a result of your experience and skills development? Explain.

I´ve learned to enjoy the process a little more and to be more patient. I have not changed my expectations as far was what I want to do, I am just accepting that it might take more time than I originally had anticipated.

3. Analyze what you have learned so far about the wiki experience.

I´ve met some great people in WE who share similar interests and I´ve learned more code that enables me to do more with my wiki pages. I am just now getting more feedback on my project that has been a great help as well.

4. How could it be applied to your work context and professional development?

My project is designed to meet my professional objectives as well as offer an open course to the community.

Teresa
day4

1.Which pages interest you most / least? Why? ''Most: http://wikieducator.org/Electronic_Village_Online and http://wikieducator.org/Using_Audacity because they are easy to navigate and the content is interesting Less: http://wikieducator.org/Lesson_15:_Intestinal_Helminths- too much information''

2.Which pages have the highest number of edits? Community Media/CCMW/Final programme, 33 edits

3.Which pages could you use, modify or localise for your purposes? Facilitating online communities

Exploring Page History 1.Find any WE page that interests you. 2.Go to the "History" tab (at the top of the page), to see the page's History 3.Notice the hyperlinks - they are linked to various page edits/revisions, as well as page authors 4.Why would you use this function in the future? Explain. Well this may helpme to improve the content and to improve my knowledge, just folow over an incredible user on a Talk/cont hyperlink and learned a lot about second life and education

Exploring Recent Changes 1.Go to: Special:RecentChanges 2.Are you able to identify what's going on in the wiki? Looks an ongoing process, go on and on for ever  , add more things, replace, correct, it is never finished 3.What do you see that interests you? Explain the possibility of work with others 4.Click on a User Name (that is blue, not red) - what did you learn about this WE user? One got a recognition on  The User Page Expo, other one is commited to  improve education, a very generous discourse and a great majority are EFL teachers.

--teresa 14:43, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * How may I 'Link your content and projects on the WikiEducator Projects page, and the Community Node / Space you are working in' Just go there, edit and insert the link???.


 * Exactly, pages are editable, so you just go, edit and insert the corresponding links.--Gladys Gahona 15:54, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Jorge Vidals

 * I have been following this workshop step by step. More than workshop activities, I have read feedback, Introduction pages and I have found interesting user pages too. I think there are too much to learn with all of you. I have a question regarding to image example.jpg. I reverted the image and I did not get the image from flowers as of Gita's image. I have this image four times in my sandbox but only three of them were the flowers. On the page image:example.jpg I found the image was not changed. After that I had to download and upload the image to get the right image. Now, after I have reverted the image again, due to get a better resolution, the image of the flowers is shown at top page and a image of Adiana is shown in the thumbnail column. If you look at some linked pages they do not show the right image. My sandbox is showing all the four images as the flowers. What is happening with this file? Looking at File history we can see many updates of this picture. My suggestion is to lock the page and with this people could make less mistakes when upload an image.


 * Jorge, thanks for the initiative. --Gladys Gahona 16:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * 1) Have you experienced a gap between your initial expectations and your experience on the wiki? Yes, I took L4C12 workshop last year thinking in to learn how to edit in a Wiki only, I thought in use all skills learned only for edit WE pages.
 * 2) How have your expectations changed, as a result of your experience and skills development? Now, I have realized that WikiEducator is not only a wiki where I can edit pages, I am sure WE is a community of great people willing to help each other and where I can share my knowledge and learn from others too.
 * 3) Analyse what you have learned so far about the wiki experience. Now, I have learned that edition skills are tools only, I have met great people and I have learned that these skills are useful to help WikiNeighbours. I have being helped for other partners and I have learned looking at wonderful user pages too.
 * 4) How could it be applied to your work context and professional development? Now, my goal is to help with the spanish instance and I am thinking how to use WikiEducator for develop useful tools for student and Engineers like me.


 * Thanks a bunch Jorge for your feedback, certainly collaboration is a key element in success of our community :-) --Gladys Gahona 03:14, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Teresa
--teresa 20:28, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it was a fantastic experience, I think it should have more days because I am a bit slow . Loved to work with the others, the facilitators were able to enable a confident learning ambience. This is just a starting point to develop further.


 * We WikiEducators learn at our own pace. There is no rush, just constancy :-) I also have enjoyed this workshop. I want to thank you for your enthusiastic participation. If you prefer, you can register to upcoming free workshops. Please visit:Learning4Content/Registration. You also can count on me anytime, we are Wikineighbours--Gladys Gahona 02:56, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Teresa - I've seen your work, and it's good. Please do keep it up...we are here to help you, when you need it. In the wiki, it's OK to take risks, to try something new, and then see what happens! In the process, you'll build up your own skills, and your confidence, and more folks will notice that you're trying....which in turn will increase your status and reputation in our Community. Great work! Randy Fisher 15:00, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Brian Evans
--Brian Evans 02:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * So for my pilot project I created the page Economics Textbooks Free and Online. However when I do a Google search using exactly those words in quotes it does not come up. Why is this so?


 * Page born yesterday, guess we should wait Google robots index it.--Gladys Gahona 03:00, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Brian, I've visited your page - cool resource! I've also added the "Economics" category to your page - open it up, and see the syntax (the link goes to: http://www.wikieducator.org/Category:Economics). In WikiEd, we use categories, so that that content can be 'grouped', and you can see what other resources there are in the category. In 2009, we expect a considerable pickup in this activity, particularly as WikiEd as a project moves to an independent OER Foundation / International Centre of Open Education (still maintaining its relationship with Commonwealth of Learning). Randy Fisher 14:56, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Gladys Gahona
'Hi everybody. Got a tip for you:'

--Gladys Gahona 06:41, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

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 * Gladys this sure looks very interesting.--Gita Mathur 15:18, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Kieran Groeger

 * I am going to offer two different approaches to school disciplinary matters - one an understanding of bullying and ways of coping with the issue, the second involves the disaggregation of disciplinary problems in school. I hope one or other or both will proe to be of interest to some teachers, parents or students.
 * Keiran, this is a very valuable resource. I am aware that in Canada (where I live), bullying is a big problem in the schools, and any resource which can increase awareness, provide options and 'education' will be much-sought after, and valuable. I'm wondering if we can invite others into a dialogue around this issue, on WikiEducator, to develop and share similar OERs. Thoughts, suggestions? Randy Fisher 14:51, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Hanaa Khamis
Hi All! It seems I managed to get there finally (two weeks later than schedule, but better late than never) Now I realize how much I've learnt from you all by jumping into the deep end of the pool. I subscribed to an advanced workshop before I joined a more step-by-step workshop (for young wiki learners)

I've learnt how to use pedagogical templates (I guess that is step #1 to develop OER?) I'd greatly appreciate your feedback and comments on my activities. Thanks again for all your constructive comments and support throughout my wiki learning experience. --Hanaakhs 10:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)