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Lions, is there any other concersn or issues you need to rai se please let's do so--Luisaserra 16:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)16:40, 30 May 2010

it's cold in Southern Africa lady and gentlemen, please ensure to bring your warmest clothing...be warned

Kay go (talk)16:43, 30 May 2010

Will do. Thanks

Victor.mensah (talk)17:06, 30 May 2010
 

We need to address the lackadaisical attitude of all group members towards making contributions to assignments.

Akachi Ngwu (talk)16:44, 30 May 2010

Any sugestions?--Luisaserra 16:45, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)16:45, 30 May 2010

We may need to refer back to our group charter, which i think is our group code of conduct

Akachi Ngwu (talk)16:46, 30 May 2010

Akachi, we can all read the group charter, but what I am asking is a very simple questions, how are we going to deal with this attitude, do we penalise people on the contribution mark? Do I talk to them once and if nothing improves the Lion memebr gets penalised? Do we discuss the contribution at the wiki so the team members know it is a vote from the team, what are the sugestions on how to deal with this, I would like to hear from you and from other members--Luisaserra 16:50, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)16:50, 30 May 2010

Are we still together with the rest of the team or else they have signed out already. We need to agree or disagree on the way forward here.

Hove (talk)16:55, 30 May 2010

Hove, we might be getting lonely here

Victor.mensah (talk)17:09, 30 May 2010
 

i refered us to the group charter because it is clearly stated that none contribution attracts penalty, so we amy need to begin to enforce it on members.

Akachi Ngwu (talk)16:55, 30 May 2010

Akachi, what type of penalty are you sugesting and when to apply it, if someone does not log on the wikichat for 3 weeks and does not make a contribution what is the penalty? And before that was that the reason wahy the assignment had a bad mark?--Luisaserra 17:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)17:02, 30 May 2010
 

Good questions Luisa. But sometimes, although members may contribute to the assignment, the main problem would have been fundamental - not understanding the question in the first place. I suggest that all team put aside some time to thoroughly discuss the assignment question even before developing the SOW. Perhaps, that may help.

Victor.mensah (talk)16:55, 30 May 2010

Totally in agreement with you, if all assignmnets are low for the MBL2, surely the problem is different than if we are the only team with bad marks. I believe if we are the only team with bad marks it is because we did not put enough work and understnding on the assignmnet, but if everyone is bad, surely somehow there is a gap from the study school, the message from the lecturer and waht is going on.--Luisaserra 17:00, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)17:00, 30 May 2010

I will try and benchmark to see what types of results some other groups are having. Perhaps we can get lessons from there too. I suggest other members try this too.

Victor.mensah (talk)17:04, 30 May 2010

Thanks Victor, I was also thinking if there are good marks and we can get asap the good assignmnet that can help for the second round. I have seen the 922N lecturer has put in the EDS waht he named "a good assignment" that is why I am thinking the problem is more generic than specific, and we need as urgently as possible to get to the bottom of the problem so we avoid it going forward--Luisaserra 17:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)17:07, 30 May 2010
 
 
 
 

at times its pressure from all angles that disables potent contributions to other sub-groups assignment. pressure from work, home as well as from the assigned assignment. the spirit would be willing but the flesh would be weak...trying to balance it all out is where i have the challenge...

Kay go (talk)16:54, 30 May 2010

So waht do we do in those circunstances? how fair is it, if someone tells me that the son is sick? or there are riots for a month in the town, etc? how do we do it.--Luisaserra 17:04, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)17:04, 30 May 2010

We understand those circumstances, but in these regard no member has complained. we must begin to get members committment once again

Akachi Ngwu (talk)17:21, 30 May 2010
 
 
 

Lets start all the assignments now and by the time we go to the study school all assignments should be ready for up-loading. At study school we should focus on critically analysing all the assignmnets before we up-load. What do you think guys? We need to agree on this.

Hove (talk)16:52, 30 May 2010

Hove, I have no problem with that, let's meet deadlines, let's participate in the discussions, but whoever is not doing that waht are we going to do about it?--Luisaserra 16:57, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)16:57, 30 May 2010
 

i agree with Hove, there are certain things that Wiki can not acheive, let us start all and come equipped to critically analyse all assignments at study school. its a bit too late to enforce anything now lets rather use our enegies productively...

Kay go (talk)17:03, 30 May 2010
 
 

WE have learnt a lesson the bad way so we need to wake up from our slumber immediately. Remember guys we do not know the results of other assignments otherwise it could be worse than what we have seen so far. The major problem could be lack of input from other group members as such our assignments are too shallow and lack the in-depth data needed. Thats what i think.

Hove (talk)16:49, 30 May 2010

I very personally believe the expectations around assignments have changed, these have less pages and the lecturers expect you to get to a certain level of thinking that we are not doing. That is why I have sent an email to Marianne about the statistics and if the lecturers can post what the expecations were on the assignments--Luisaserra 16:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)16:53, 30 May 2010

Its not too late now what is needed is a team spirit. How did we manage last year. Our thinking in our respective groups is myopic as such we do not have differing views hence our failure to rise to the occassion. Lets start to critise and make contributions to all assignments as a group.

Hove (talk)16:59, 30 May 2010

agreed, some of the stuff is not in the books anymore--Luisaserra 17:08, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)17:08, 30 May 2010

we also need to visit EDS online more frequently...sometimes information is put there and we only learn of it late.

Kay go (talk)17:15, 30 May 2010

Lions, lets share the info we see going forward--Luisaserra 17:16, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)17:16, 30 May 2010