# Talk:Minimally invasive education

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The other side of the coin011:49, 15 February 2013
Herner222:29, 30 July 2011
Minimally Invasive Education319:55, 18 January 2011

## The other side of the coin

Is there room for some debate here? You give a very nice presentation of Sugata Mitra's ideas. A few of us, though, are a little concerned that the apparently child-centred reading of Mitra's approach merely masks the fact that it is essentially tech-centred. The first lesson the children learn in a SOLE is that the truth is online, and perhaps it is not too much of an exaggeration to hear the tablet/laptop/iPad silently saying: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life."

Some of us see the continuing need for a TOLE (teacher organised learning environment) in which the children are introduced to a non-tech-centric view of the world.

We are fumbling our way to articulating some of these doubts in posts like the following:

Hope you don't mind our interjection.

11:49, 15 February 2013

## Herner

Nice Herner quote - relates too to Sir Ken who would suggest that we over-use medication to anesthetise kids so that they can get through the school day. What does that say about the school day? Akin to the gratuitous removal on tonsils in the 50s...

Hey, you don't appear to be using this page - would you mind if I overhauled it? it seems a waste of a good url

19:45, 9 February 2011

Thats all fine to use this page - not that you really need to ask - the wiki is for all to add to...strange how things take shape, my class this year has been a stress to say the least - medication of students has been a significant factor. I am not sure whether I would have a definitive response to being pro or anti meds having now seen it from different angles. Parents and teachers seeing it as the panacea for all behavioural issues and the reliance on chemicals when social interventions such as CBT or the upskilling of parents and teachers to manage behaviours that fit on the outer edge of acceptance would be more appropriate.

04:39, 13 July 2011

FYI:

Lovely work! For starters, do report some of this on <http://www.solesandsomes.wikispaces.com> www.solesandsomes.wikispaces.com<http://www.solesandsomes.wikispaces.com>

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All the best,

Sugata

22:26, 30 July 2011

Tara T-Js MIE


(changed url to the wikispaces one)

21:32, 19 January 2011

## Minimally Invasive Education

This is a negative statement - wondering about turning it into a positive one??? Extremely Helpful Education?

23:11, 30 November 2010
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I agree - it also sounds very clinical. I wonder if we should play around with Freedom. Maximizing Freedom or something. Invade vs Peace was another idea i was playing with in my head.

I like what you have done with how it will look in your school

yeh I think this will be how I run my class next year - this too sounds a bit clinical with its times etc but can't see a way around this at the moment...

Check out who won the special achievement award [1]

This could be a good place to contribute stories to when we're up-and-running Ewan McIntosh

22:34, 1 December 2010

I'm very interested in your ideas here. Minimally invasive education does a great job of communicating the intent, but I agree, the negative phrasing is not ideal. I know you have been working with the idea of open education as the basis for a school and this is generally the accepted meaning. Have you considered expanding the idea of open education to apply to the people (children and others) in the school. To me open education for individuals implies: freedom, along with responsibility, rather than coercion; an environment that values all learning (as compared to education models with imposed standards/curricula); and a deep respect for the individual learner and their needs.

Just a thought.

Alison

17:38, 6 December 2010

Thanks Alison - as you can see we are exploring ideas based around concepts that are of interest to us - I had a look at your user page and really liked your statement about Education. This fits with what we also believe in...at the moment we are in a slight limbo with names and direction as there are so many facets to our learning journey that we see needing to be tied togther. Exploring the concept of freedom from within a state school is fraught with barbs! I also homeschooled and ran a homeschool group called CRE8 using ideas from Gatto, Llewellyn and Kohn - but ended up back in the system as i felt these ideas needed to brought in from the periphery. If you have stuff you can add we are keen to get others involved. Nathan

22:41, 6 December 2010