Talk:Educators care/Permission to teach/Fair and reasonable practice survey

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Thread titleRepliesLast modified
Comments and thoughts on the Survey008:54, 26 April 2011
Feedback on the survey321:47, 7 February 2011
Fair uses..119:48, 10 January 2011
Question format for Opinion section304:01, 30 December 2010
Question on using digital content504:00, 30 December 2010
Style guide -- capitalisation303:32, 29 December 2010
Group likert items in Opinion section202:49, 29 December 2010

Comments and thoughts on the Survey

(Moved from here)

A few thoughts (based on the File:OCL4ED Reasonable practice survey.pdf) for next time:

Regarding the survey:

q. 12.[edit | edit source]

"Learning materials should be free for all learners of the world."

Ambiguous (some respondents will interpret the question one way, others another).

?"All" or "Some"? If "some", which types on which media?

e.g. learning materials whose development costs have been covered (e.g. via the salaries of educators and public institutional overheads).

In this case the "free" clearly means "gratis" (right?).

The wording portrays a wonderful ideal with which most people would agree.

q.15.[edit | edit source]

Why would anyone do 15 (copy) if not to do 16 (redistribute)?

q.15-17.[edit | edit source]

Why use contradictory wording?

e.g. you could have said

"16. It is fair and reasonable for educators to have permission to redistribute materials for teaching and learning contexts."

(i.e. the permission is not "unrestricted", it is restricted to "teaching and learning contexts")

q.18-21[edit | edit source]

Ambiguous for anyone who intends to use different licenses according to context.

i.e. "I am happy to share my creative works and the content I generate ONLY if ..."

The response to almost any question starting in this way (18-21) would have to be "disagree" or "strongly disagree".


q.19[edit | edit source]

Ambiguous

e.g. depends on how one reads the question (note emphasis):

  • "strongly disagree" - _I_ usually work with others, my knowledge always comes from somewhere, and I would not necessarily want to be attributed as the original creator. (but I "strongly agree" that the deserving original author be attributed).
  • _and_ - "agree" for my creative works but "disagree" for the content I generate. Applying _and_ my response has to be "disagree" or "strongly disagree".

q.21.[edit | edit source]

"I am happy to share my creative works and the content I generate ONLY if others are not allowed to make money from my creations."

The wording surfaces notions of "ownership" of "intellectual property" and "control" in how people use "my" works and misses the point of the Creative Commons licenses (liberating culture).

q22 and q23[edit | edit source]

These are mutually exclusive (due to "ONLY" in 22) and complimentary. Interesting that we get 71% agreeing with 22 and only 42% disagreeing with 23?

q25 - q28.[edit | edit source]

"reluctant"?

The word applies in q.25 and possibly q.28 but not in 26-27.

e.g. change q26 and q27 to read:

"I don't share my teaching materials or creative works BECAUSE ..."

i.e. it is not that I am "reluctant" to do so, I just don't because ... (I don't have time, etc.).

q.33.[edit | edit source]

In the results file: does this summarise all the "Further comments and suggestions"?

KTucker (talk)08:54, 26 April 2011

Feedback on the survey

This is a great survey! Easy to follow, quick and straight to the point! Congratulations. Cheers, Carina

Carina Bossu (talk)05:03, 7 February 2011

Appreciate the feedback.

Thanks Carina :-). We've been lucky -- good volunteer work from colleagues which have helped improve our early drafts.

As free content -- you can adapt and modify for your own research projects!

Cheers

Mackiwg (talk)05:31, 7 February 2011

Looking good! I like questions 25-29, very helpful for gauging the most prevalent arguments against OERs. --Janecc 21:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Janecc (talk)21:01, 7 February 2011

Thanks -- really appreciate the feedback. Apart from helping educators reflect on the issues, the information will be extremely valuable in gaining a rich understanding of the perceptions out there in the real world.

Mackiwg (talk)21:47, 7 February 2011
 
 
 

Fair uses..

There don't seem to be questions about the actual types of permissions that teachers think is fair? ie. I believe I should have a right to copy, redistribute, or derive X and X type of works. Or I believe I should only have the right to copy... etc. Maybe this is not the intent of the survey, but it sounds like it from description "what permissions you would consider fair and reasonable in a teaching and learning context"

Jane Park (talk)16:30, 10 January 2011

Hi Jane,

Thanks - -that's a great suggestion and a valuable addition to the questionnaire. I'll add these.

Mackiwg (talk)19:47, 10 January 2011
 

Question format for Opinion section

I lost my flow of concentration when the question typed changed in the "Opinion" section. One way to address this would be to rewrite the first three questions in this section to use the format of the later questions...1st person, likert scale. I'd also suggest including directions. This revision might look something like the following:


For each of the following statements, indicate your level of agreement.

I believe that learning materials should be free for all learners of the world.

  • Strongly agree
  • Agree
  • Disagree
  • Strongly disagree

I support lecturers, teachers and trainers in their decision to share their teaching materials freely.

  • Strongly agree
  • Agree
  • Disagree
  • Strongly disagree

I believe that content generated from taxpayer revenue should be released freely for use by all citizens.

  • Strongly agree
  • Agree
  • Disagree
  • Strongly disagree

A second option is to just add the new instructions "For each of the following statements, indicate your level of agreement." before the first question in the new format.

I have a slight preference for just adding directions--I like having the dichotomous answer choices for the first three questions--more definitive, although we risk having a large number of omits (assuming that's an option).

Alison

ASnieckus (talk)01:41, 29 December 2010

Hi Alison,

I have no real preference -- both would work for me. Skipping questions will be an option (we won't force answers and will respect anonymity). That said, from experience our community of educators are pretty good at answering these survey questions.

Go with your preference imho :-)

Mackiwg (talk)02:06, 29 December 2010

Having thought about it a bit more, the likert scale seems preferable with these so we can get a sense of how strongly people agree/disagree.

I'll reword these questions in the survey and we can see how it flows.

Alison

ASnieckus (talk)00:35, 30 December 2010

That's fine ;-) -- I think you're right!

Mackiwg (talk)04:01, 30 December 2010
 
 
 

Question on using digital content

As to the last question:

"In the past, I have used digital content sourced from the web without attributing the source (e.g. images sourced from Google or Yahoo! Search)" (Yes/No)

I realize the intent of the question, but "use" is a very broad word. I'd be surprised if anyone could honestly answer "no" to this question, because even one instance of having used something from the internet without attribution would mean you have to answer "yes." I don't think that's the intent of the question. One option is to reword to narrow the scope. But, I wonder if it is more interesting if we were to try to get at the ways people have used digital content.

We could rework this question as "check all that apply" and offer examples. Here's a quick reworking to show what I mean:

In the past, I have used digital content sourced from the web without attributing the source in the following ways:
  • included an image or quote sourced from an internet search, e.g., Google or Yahoo!, in an unpublished work
  • allowed students to use internet images in their classroom work, e.g., in a classroom presentation
  • included an image or quote on a public website, e.g., blog
  • forwarded an email containing an image or quote

Just some thoughts on this question. Alison

ASnieckus (talk)02:24, 29 December 2010

Hi Alison,

I've not been too happy with the question myself. As you indicate the intent is not to "police" the breach of copyright -- but somehow to get a sense of how things operate in the real world. Thoughts:

  • I suggest we change the scale from a binary Yes/No answer to a Likert type scale -- perhaps something like 1) Never, 2) Seldom, 3) Sometimes 4) Often.
  • Create a separate bullet for quotes (i.e separate images from text.)

Good value addition -- thanks!

Mackiwg (talk)02:35, 29 December 2010

I like your rewording options better...it'd be nice if we could understand this practice better, but I didn't like the suggestions, even as I wrote them. I'll make a change given your suggestions...as you suggest a grouped option that deals separately with images and text.

Alison

ASnieckus (talk)03:07, 29 December 2010

Thanks Alison,

Having your critical eye go over these questions is extremely valuable in improving the quality of what we are trying to do. I'll take a close look at the revised suggestions and groupings to see if I can improve in any way.

Agreed -- we need to get a better understanding of how the OER movement is maturing over time in the practice and thoughts of educators around the world. I can't wait to see the aggregated results after the pilot offering of the course.

W

Mackiwg (talk)03:28, 29 December 2010

Thanks, I'm happy to help out.

I'm still unhappy with this question. Coming back to it today, I notice that it doesn't fit in the "Opinions" section, in that the respondent is not asked to offer an opinion.

I'm not sure I could answer how often I've used images and text without attribution.

This is really useful information to collect, but I'm not convinced the current wording gets at what we are interested in.

ASnieckus (talk)00:31, 30 December 2010

Yeah -- I see the problem.

mmm let me think .....

How about reformulating as an opinion question.

In my opinion, it is acceptable to use images (e.g sourced from Google or Yahoo! search) in my classroom presentations (slide shows, handouts) without confirming permissions to reuse the images

  • Strongly agree
  • Agree
  • Disagree
  • Strongly disagree

In my opinion, it acceptable to use images (e.g sourced from Google or Yahoo! search) in my classroom presentations (slide shows, handouts) without attributing the source


  • Strongly agree
  • Agree
  • Disagree
  • Strongly disagree

In my opinion, it is acceptable to use images (e.g sourced from Google or Yahoo! search) on published websites e.g. blog posts or learning management system without confirming permissions to reuse the images.

  • Strongly agree
  • Agree
  • Disagree
  • Strongly disagree

You get the idea -- is this better?

W

Mackiwg (talk)04:00, 30 December 2010
 
 
 
 
 

Style guide -- capitalisation

Great job on the survey. As I read through the questions, I noticed some inconsistency in capitalisation. A few suggestions:

  • Open education resources: seems to me that this is used conceptually rather than as a proper noun. I suggest we use lower case.
  • Creative Commons: In a quick look I didn't find a definitive style guide on capitalisation. Although logo is lower case, the actual license name is uppercase. I suggest we use upper case. (See second heading for lower case use, versus general upper case use.)

Just thought I'd post these since it seemed like we should come to consensus on this early in our work.

Alison

ASnieckus (talk)01:24, 29 December 2010

Hi Alison,

Thanks for the feedback on the survey questions. I think this will provide valuable data on contemporary thinking among educators relating to the sharing of knowledge -- but also a nice feature to give immediate feedback to learners on the course.

I agree with both suggestions for the style guidelines for this development. Consistency is more important than individual preferences for this task imho. Draw a line in the sand and post these guidelines to the list ;-). We'll follow the recommendations.

Cheers

Mackiwg (talk)02:21, 29 December 2010

Agreed, this will be a good tool to learn about what educators are thinking on this issue.

I'll make the changes on the survey as suggested. I noticed a style guide page for the project, so I'll add these as style guidelines. (I'm hoping to get time in the near future to review the content pages.) I'll post a link to the style page, once revised, and ask for additional suggestions.

Alison

ASnieckus (talk)02:44, 29 December 2010

Really appreciate your contributions -- thank you :-D.

Your a skilled editor and WE need this input to fix up my lack of attention to detail. Yip -- have set up a style guideline page for this project to focus on consistency decisions unique to this project. Eg, naming conventions for all the CC license ;-).

Cheers

Mackiwg (talk)03:32, 29 December 2010
 
 
 

Group likert items in Opinion section

There are sets of likert items in the Opinion section which have common or near-common stems. I suggest grouping these. I revised one of the groups on the survey page to show what I mean. I think the grouping will improve a respondents understanding of each statement in that it focuses attention on the differences (which we see easily because we are familiar with CC).

If we like the grouping better, there are two other groupings that we could make:

  • the two statements following the trial grouping
  • the three statements that begin with "I am reluctant to share my teaching materials or creative works because"

Alison

ASnieckus (talk)02:00, 29 December 2010

Good suggestion on the groups.

I'm supportive. Also, better practice from a survey design perspective to group as you have suggested.

Thanks :-)

W

Mackiwg (talk)02:23, 29 December 2010

OK. I'll make the additional groupings.

Thanks for the quick responses.

Alison

ASnieckus (talk)02:49, 29 December 2010