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MBL912L - Meeting 2 - 22nd March 2009

Ok guys are we all ready?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:05, 22 March 2009
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Point 1: Team Charter:


Utang and Taurai, thank you for your contribution, please ensure that all emails are sent to the correct email addresses as I did you not receive your emails directly but from Luisa.

Utang, Still need your signature.

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:09, 22 March 2009

Any closing comments on the Team Charter before I prepare the 3rd Draft and distribute to all?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:15, 22 March 2009
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we are on track as it is at present. you can send the 3rd draft copy

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:19, 22 March 2009

(Comment.gif: Akachi and all, DONT leave a space infront of your sentence. That create the boxlike feature u have up here (unless it is intentional?))

Victor.mensah (talk)18:23, 22 March 2009
 

The Charter looks good. The document i have here dosnt have any content under 13.3 and 13.4 If there is a newer version with contents there, then its ok with me.

Victor.mensah (talk)18:21, 22 March 2009

These areas will be inserted and I will use work done by team members from the assignment contribution.

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:25, 22 March 2009
 
 

I sent it already. I'll copy Luisa in the next one.

Utang (talk)18:23, 22 March 2009
 

Is Taurai here?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:10, 22 March 2009

No Taurai is not on line, I am sending him the www address, he might join later--Luisaserra 18:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)18:14, 22 March 2009
 

Apologies from Shungu internet challenges, she will join in if she overcomes the connection--Luisaserra 18:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)18:10, 22 March 2009
 

I will be adding some of the info that some of the team members are currently busy with into the Team Charter. Thus is it important that each of you send me your contribution by end of day tomorrow. Will that be possible for all?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:12, 22 March 2009

Yes Hermanus, it should be possible for me. Appologies for the delay, i practically didnt realise i had such a detailed write-up to do (my fault). I have sent through a draft zero via email at this moment. See if i am on the right track so i finish up by moro.

Victor.mensah (talk)18:15, 22 March 2009

Thanks Victor, I will be online early in the morning and will review the work and insert into the second draft. Did you agree with the comments and guidance I sent yesterday?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:17, 22 March 2009

Yes i did. Practically, it was your comments that alerted me to the fact that i had a task. SOrry my emails have all been messed up since i came. Your comments tommorrow morning is highly appreciated.

Victor.mensah (talk)18:18, 22 March 2009
 
 

Hermanus, please it is important to ask Utang, Hove and Jeremiah what assignemnst would they feel confortable in atking a Team leader role for the 2nd round of assignemnts.--Luisaserra 18:19, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)18:19, 22 March 2009

Sorry chaps had issues with my connection. I wil definiutely take a lead on the 914 Assignments. I wouldnt midn leading on any other courses either.

JEREMIAH CHAPHXANYA (talk)18:24, 22 March 2009
 

Hermanus, you should get our first draft in. I am resending my signature and will copy Luisa, just incase you don't get it...she can forward it to you. Thanks Luisa.

Utang (talk)18:29, 22 March 2009

Please all note:

My email address is hermanus.louw@wspgroup.com

or if that fails try knerseslouw@gmail.com , but I rarely look at this last email address

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:38, 22 March 2009
 
 

has all members given their submission on the outstanding areas.

Does the team charter have a deadline? we have taken much time on this.

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:16, 22 March 2009

Akachi, there is no deadline but it will need to be submitted with the MBL912L assignment. I want to distribute the last draft come end of day tomorrow.

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:18, 22 March 2009

Beautiful, please go ahead. we need to tidy up with it and face other assignments.

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:23, 22 March 2009
 
 
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Point 2:

Consideration of Resources, Victor any questions other than what was just posted before?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:19, 22 March 2009

My main write up (as circulated incomplete and in draft zero about 15mins ago) deals mainly with the Human Resources we have. I wrote about our

  • diverse backgrounds,
  • stated strengths (as per charter)
  • stated weeknesses/shortfalls

and then tried to do a balance between the to under the sub-heading leveling. My questions are:

  1. Is this on course
  2. Should i include other resources (like our ability as a team to create this wiki platform and use successfully?)

All members' comments are welcome.

Victor.mensah (talk)18:28, 22 March 2009

victor, your approach is great, the addtion of the wiki platform is also a strong resource platform.

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:33, 22 March 2009

Thanks

Victor.mensah (talk)18:37, 22 March 2009
 
 
 
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Urgent

Critical Point not part of prescribed agenda:

We need to redistribute the workload for the second group of assignments, for this reason do we need to assign Hove, Utang and Jeremiah each as project leaders, Thus:

Guys are there any specific subject that you are comfortable with and would like to be the leader of?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:24, 22 March 2009

914 without hesitation. However i am happy to take on anything to be honest.

JEREMIAH CHAPHXANYA (talk)18:26, 22 March 2009

Thank you Jeremiah, I think Luisa will be very gratefull.

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:32, 22 March 2009

Luisa Do you agree?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:36, 22 March 2009

I do not see any problems with that because it is Jeremiah's strength--Luisaserra 18:40, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)18:40, 22 March 2009
 
 
 

Utang any preferences?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:27, 22 March 2009
 
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Another important point, we would like to reshuffle the official roles, with the following people as substitues for different roles:

Assistant project leader: Jeremiah

Assistant IT: Hove

Do you agree with these roles?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:31, 22 March 2009

Hermanus - this is for which assignment? Just to be sure, otherwise I am more than happy to actively play my part.

JEREMIAH CHAPHXANYA (talk)18:34, 22 March 2009

No for assignment group 2, can you take the lead as project leader, but for the overall group structure, I am assigned as project leader, and I would like your assistance as substitute group project leader

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:36, 22 March 2009

No worries. I will do that and we can coordinate.

JEREMIAH CHAPHXANYA (talk)18:40, 22 March 2009
 
 

Assistant IT should be kept for Kago.Secretary should be given to Utang, this is my proposal--Luisaserra 18:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)18:38, 22 March 2009

Sorry Luisa, I second that motion? any pther comments?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:39, 22 March 2009
 

i second this. Hove will however have to choose or be given some role to play - any ideas? Hove, you can comments on this also.

Victor.mensah (talk)18:43, 22 March 2009
 

are they provisions of the roles in our team charter?

urgent message from utang. she has power problems can not continue with meeting.

She has interest in all the modules except 912L, 914n & 916Q

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:39, 22 March 2009

Thanks Akachi, would she be able to do MBL915P?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:41, 22 March 2009

yes she can. just got her confirmation

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:44, 22 March 2009
 

Dear Lions, I suggets we give Utang 915P, it is one of her strenghts--Luisaserra 18:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)18:42, 22 March 2009

i guess assignment 2

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:45, 22 March 2009
 

Yes there are various roles and substitutes in the charter. We may need to specify that for Part II these roles change --Shumimlingo 18:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Shumimlingo (talk)18:42, 22 March 2009

Utang is quiet - is she still online?

Victor.mensah (talk)18:53, 22 March 2009
 

Akachi can you also ask her about the official role of substitute secratary?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:43, 22 March 2009

Hi Lions, I'm back...sorry, power failure

Yes, I can play the role of substitute secretary

Utang (talk)19:14, 22 March 2009
 
 
 
 

Point 3:

Project Planning and Scheduling, any questions?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:33, 22 March 2009

is planning and scheduling just for this module or for the whole MBL 1 assignments?

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:42, 22 March 2009

No it is for the whole year's module. only the section of project performance refers to the first assignment done.

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:44, 22 March 2009
 

it is for this assignment and to be handled by Taurai and Utang

Victor.mensah (talk)18:46, 22 March 2009

Sorry Victor, it is for the whole year activities, not just for this or the previous assignment

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:54, 22 March 2009

understood. I got Akachi's question wrongly. Thanks.

Victor.mensah (talk)18:56, 22 March 2009
 
 
 
 

Point 4

Risk Management, any questions?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:45, 22 March 2009

Hermanus, from my side & Shungu we will be doing a more detailed analysis of the risks as discussed with you, thanks--Luisaserra 18:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)18:47, 22 March 2009
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Noted, Thank you

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:48, 22 March 2009
 

sorry iam asking questions, i still need to come to terms with project management.

risk management in excuting the assignment or risk management as a group.

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:48, 22 March 2009

It is all risk that has an influence in preventing the team from continuing and reaching our end goals as listed in the team charter.

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:50, 22 March 2009
 

Hi Akachi, the risk management is for achievieving the entire MBL1 this year. It will mainly focus in we as a group will deliver. We will look at the opportunitties, this is how we will leverage our strengths and also at the challenges we are facing as a group to deliver the MBL1. This is the assignment for Operations mnagement 912L. i hope it is clear.thanks--Luisaserra 18:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)18:52, 22 March 2009

ok. Thanks. the picture is clearer now

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:55, 22 March 2009
 
 

I will give my feedback in the draft report. From a quick look, I am fine with what I saw.

JEREMIAH CHAPHXANYA (talk)18:51, 22 March 2009
 
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Point 5

Evaluation Process, any question?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:52, 22 March 2009

I hope we made sense in our presentation - I worked on this with AKACHI.

JEREMIAH CHAPHXANYA (talk)18:57, 22 March 2009

Thnanks guys, I think that it looked good, something inportant to note. We do not have to follow the exact order that the lecturer specified but just have to assure that all those points are covered.

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:00, 22 March 2009

thanks

Akachi Ngwu (talk)19:02, 22 March 2009
 
 
 

Point 6

Program and Project Control, any questions?

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:57, 22 March 2009

No comments from me

JEREMIAH CHAPHXANYA (talk)18:59, 22 March 2009
 

Hermanus I hope you're referring to project performance. If so just one question.

How exacting should we be on our shortcomings...these are many of these. I don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot. Secondly, we may spill over into 4 pages...hope this is not a problem

Shumimlingo (talk)19:01, 22 March 2009

Shumi, yes there we quite a few problems project management wise in the first assignment. But i do think that we have started to make some inprovements and will carry on doing so, that is the goal of project management.

You need describe this process and where we are inproving.

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:05, 22 March 2009

ok..will update for your earlier comments and send the final doc tommorrow --Shumimlingo 19:09, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Shumimlingo (talk)19:09, 22 March 2009
 

I also seem to be heading toward more pages than was aloccated. Was still planning to do some graphics but may reconsider.

Victor.mensah (talk)19:05, 22 March 2009

Please do not be concerned about going over the recommended amount of pages, any additional info can be added as appendices. If you read the lecturer's comments on previous assignments you will note that it is more about content than specific page numbers.

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:09, 22 March 2009
 
 
 

Point 7


Project Performance, any questions? Thank you gys I did get your notes and will send you more comments early tomorrow.

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:02, 22 March 2009
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Sorry replied in the wrong place. See my comments on Jerry's section. --Shumimlingo 19:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Shumimlingo (talk)19:04, 22 March 2009
 

Point 8

Project Control and Measurement, I will add some detail the this section in the next draft.

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:06, 22 March 2009
 
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Point 9

Questions and general comments, closing out comments and quetions?

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:07, 22 March 2009

Are the instructions on the number of pages that rigid?

Victor.mensah (talk)19:10, 22 March 2009

Dear Lions, we will have to comply with pages numbers, but we can always put things in appendixes, this was very clear at the Study school--Luisaserra 19:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)19:12, 22 March 2009
 

See my previous comment, but no. It is very inportant that all read the attachment that I sent through yesterday on the comments from the lecturer. That gives you amore clear idea of what is expected.

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:12, 22 March 2009
 

Dear Lions, I have sent an email abou my business trip to Asia, I hope you all got it. I might not be available with my current phone line, but I am available on emails and make sure I go to the business center everyday to catch up with you.--Luisaserra 19:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)19:11, 22 March 2009

Yes, i got it. Wish you a safe journey. Perhaps i should also indicate here that as stated in the team charter, i will be away on leave from 25th March to 30th April. But no fears, i should be online for our next meeting ceteris paribus. I should still be reachable on all my email addresses.

Cheers!
--Victor P. K. Mensah 19:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Victor.mensah (talk)19:15, 22 March 2009
 

No comments for now. However I will provide you with my feedback in track changes when I finsih my detailed review.

JEREMIAH CHAPHXANYA (talk)19:11, 22 March 2009
 

about the role of secretary, is there a format for submission of the minutes to EDS? also, this question is for victor, i need small tutorial on data stroge on wiki

Akachi Ngwu (talk)19:11, 22 March 2009

Akachi, please see the minutes template that i sent to you yesterday. I also sent through the previous minutes, that will give you a good idea of what to do

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:14, 22 March 2009

sorry akachi, one last comment, you do not have to spend to much time with the minutes, just ensure that the general idea of each point was captured.

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:15, 22 March 2009

Actually, just a resolution (descision) minutes. We always have the full details from this page as a permanent verbatim record to for reference if need be.

Victor.mensah (talk)19:22, 22 March 2009
 

thanks. yes, i got your email

Akachi Ngwu (talk)19:27, 22 March 2009
 
 
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Akachi, you can actually store (upload) a variety of date/resources on this wiki. I have created a space/page/link for that. However, since this wiki is a public one, the data may become a permanent record (unless i request deletion from the server). The EDS is thus the best palce to upload all official records of the group (as in the Charter).

But i can definitly take you through uploads for your wiki skills development.

Victor.mensah (talk)19:25, 22 March 2009

thanks and God bless

Akachi Ngwu (talk)19:28, 22 March 2009
 
 

Hove was trying to log on to Wiki but failed. I made contact with him during our meeting Nothing else from me. --Shumimlingo 19:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Shumimlingo (talk)19:14, 22 March 2009

Thanks Shumi for this. I dont know why he should fail to log in. Has he forgoten his password or his username? He should perhaps take into consideration that these are case-sensitive. Perhaps he can create a new account or get in touch with me to talk this through.

--VM

Victor.mensah (talk)19:20, 22 March 2009

Hi all. Iam sorry iam extremely late.I had a problem with my connection despite having logged in, the weekly discussion page was unavailable so there was nothing i could do. My apology. I only managed now. Victor i think it would be bset for to clarify this: when you log in and you get a message which saya " There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title..........." What do you do?

Hove (talk)19:31, 22 March 2009
 
 
 
 

Sign out here

Use this area to sign out

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:19, 22 March 2009

Ok guys, Got a message from Luisa, her power has gone and she is done for tonight. Thank you all for your contributions and let us all put our all into it the next couple of days to ensure that this assigment get finished. Hermanus Signing off

Hermanus Louw (talk)19:24, 22 March 2009
 

I would be the last to sign off but i think this has been a lovely meeting. Thanks to the Chair and all the "legs of the chair" <smile>. A candy each for all <lol>.

Good night.

Victor.mensah (talk)19:28, 22 March 2009

So long, everybody. till next sunday

Akachi Ngwu (talk)19:29, 22 March 2009
 
 

Ignore this thread

please ignore this thread. (Comment.gif: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS!)

Victor.mensah (talk)18:06, 22 March 2009

Quorum/Attendance

Kindly reply to this message immediatly you log in to this page to indicate your presence and readiness for this meeting. After saying your "Hello" kindly dont ever comment here again until the meeting comes to a close. Helloes should be said latest by 5minutes BEFORE the start of the main meeting discussions.

Please note that the main discussions will be in a seperate heading and to be started ONLY by the chair of this particular meeting.

Victor.mensah (talk)19:02, 18 March 2009

Hello Great lions,

online for the meeting.

Akachi Ngwu (talk)17:57, 22 March 2009
 

Hi Lions I am on line. apologies on behalf of Hermanus internet challenges--Luisaserra 18:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)18:00, 22 March 2009
 

Hello Lions

Internet a bit slow...but I'm here for the meeting

Utang (talk)18:03, 22 March 2009
 

Hey guy! I'm ready to start. Kago is travelling...not too sure if he'll be available --Shumimlingo 18:03, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Shumimlingo (talk)18:03, 22 March 2009
 

Hi Luisa, You're not going to believe this but here I am!

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:04, 22 March 2009

Great News Hermanus, I had already asked Victor to oepn the main discussion with Team Charter and 912l assignment. Please since you are on line take over the chaireing of the meeting.--Luisaserra 18:06, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Luisaserra (talk)18:06, 22 March 2009
 

Hi Lions

Lets get going as soon as possible.

Hermanus Louw (talk)18:04, 22 March 2009
 

Online and ready to go

Victor.mensah (talk)18:10, 22 March 2009
 

Online and ready to go

Victor.mensah (talk)18:10, 22 March 2009
 

are we on? can't see anyone online

Akachi

Akachi Ngwu (talk)18:12, 22 March 2009