Talk:Copyright for Educators/Case study: Question 4

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BBC copyright statement has changed?303:22, 3 January 2012

BBC copyright statement has changed?

In checking the link for the copyright statement, as listed in question 2, "yes" response, I couldn't find the quote. It seems like the website now offers two versions, personal and business. Suggest rewording the response to inform learner that including a video in a course is not considered personal use, and then linking to the 2nd item in the business tab, and quoting the bit that begins "you may not..." through "...or elsewhere....".

Thoughts?

Alison

ASnieckus (talk)18:31, 31 December 2011

Hi Alison,

Can't recall the original site but BBC may well have changed the terms of use.

The issue in the case study is making a local copy of the video for the LMS (not deep linking for users to access.) I'd prefer not to use the "not considered personal use" argument here as its a little grey -- eg classes would not be considered a business and the BBC definition is not too clear on this.

I think it may be better to use an extract from the following text under from 3.3.3 on the personal use page (http://www.bbc.co.uk/terms/personal.shtml), possibly the bit highlighted in bold rather than the text for businesses.

You agree to use BBC Online Services and access, download, view and/or listen to BBC Content as supplied to you by the BBC and you may not, and you may not assist anyone to, or attempt to, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, adapt, modify, copy, reproduce, lend, hire, rent, perform, sub-license, make available to the public, create derivative works from, broadcast, distribute, commercially exploit, transmit or otherwise use in any way BBC Online Services and/or BBC Content in whole or in part except to the extent permitted in these Terms of Use, any relevant Additional Terms and at law.

What do you think.

Mackiwg (talk)22:56, 1 January 2012

Hi Wayne,

Yes, the bolded section does make the case in largely the same way as the previous. And it seems reasonable that if it's not OK to copy/reproduce for personal use, it's not OK for classroom use. (I see my error in reasoning as to the personal/business classification :)

I made the change on the page (altering the beginning of the quote to fit the text). Also I deleted the follow-up statement "Course materials would not qualify as personal use" to the former quote.

This issue is resolved :)

Thanks.

ASnieckus (talk)01:49, 3 January 2012

Really appreciate your critical review on the content. This is a great help in polishing the quality of the product.

I think the responses are now standing on firmer ground with less room for ambiguities. Your queries and suggestions are helping us to rethink and tighten up the explanations.

Great progress!

Mackiwg (talk)03:22, 3 January 2012